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Some hypotheticals regarding Gordon and his contract
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:25 pm
it's dead here today, so i wanted to see some thoughts regarding this.
let's say Gordon comes back and plays decently (the level he was playing in the last 5 or 6 games pre injury this season).
Gordon has a player option next year for 15.5 mil. Let's say he tests free agency and doesn't get much to lure him away from that. i think the only way he leaves is if Indiana offers him a decent contract.
would you want Dell to offer him to restructure and take a 3 year/30 mil deal? or just bite the bullet on the one year, 15 mil? or what other realistic options do you take? cut him and take the stretch provision?
i pray that if he does stay next year, he plays his arse off in a contract year to make some money from somewhere else.
also, can't believe this guy has been in NOLA 4 years already.
let's say Gordon comes back and plays decently (the level he was playing in the last 5 or 6 games pre injury this season).
Gordon has a player option next year for 15.5 mil. Let's say he tests free agency and doesn't get much to lure him away from that. i think the only way he leaves is if Indiana offers him a decent contract.
would you want Dell to offer him to restructure and take a 3 year/30 mil deal? or just bite the bullet on the one year, 15 mil? or what other realistic options do you take? cut him and take the stretch provision?
i pray that if he does stay next year, he plays his arse off in a contract year to make some money from somewhere else.
also, can't believe this guy has been in NOLA 4 years already.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:28 pm to quail man
I'd dance down the aisle to have him at 3/30 assuming he isn't irreparably damaged
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:30 pm to quail man
If my options are 3 years 30 mil or 1 yr 15 mil, he'd pretty much have to finish out the year without missing any more games to consider the former.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:30 pm to quail man
Truthfully I would just like to see him gone. I think he tries his hardest to like playing in NOLA but it's just not the place he wants to be. Even if he restructured it would have to be a damn bargain for me to want him to stay. And that's true even if he plays all-star caliber ball the remainder of the year - he can't seem to stay healthy. I had high hopes for him when he came on board after CP3 left but it has just been disappointment after disappointment. Save the $$$ and pay a max salary to somebody who wants to play alongside a top 3 player in the NBA.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:37 pm to pleading the fifth
something to keep in mind. this is projected cap over the next few years:
2015: $63,065,000
2016: $66,300,000
2017: $87,196,327
currently at almost 59
2015: $63,065,000
2016: $66,300,000
2017: $87,196,327
currently at almost 59
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:39 pm to quail man
He could come back and avg 100 ppg and he still wouldn't command a contract that pays him $15m/yr.
Quail, there is literally a better chance that you could have a foursome with Mila Kunis, Minka Kelly and Heady than Gordon testing FA this offseason.
Quail, there is literally a better chance that you could have a foursome with Mila Kunis, Minka Kelly and Heady than Gordon testing FA this offseason.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:59 pm to quail man
I couldn't give him 10mil/yr anymore, even if he played well. The fear of him breaking something is so high you'd be gambling your future with AD with that move.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:08 pm to Broski
He would be stupid with his injury history to not at least see what he's offered. He can test without losing out on his 15 mil, right? Or does testing give up his rights?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:14 pm to quail man
I think he'd have to decline his option before free agency starts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:50 pm to quail man
I'm not sure he's worth that investment. He's not worth anything when he's sitting injured, and that happens far too often for my liking
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:52 pm to htran90
I think the question he's asking is would you give Gordon a 2 yr 15 mil extension if it saves you cap space next year?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:14 pm to ShamelessPel
pretty much. you're giving him 15 mil next year barring a miracle. so would you essentially take him for an extra 2 years at 7.5 mil per after that in order to save a little money next year.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:22 pm to quail man
Yeah, I think unless he opts out (which is very unlikely) the only option is to eat the salary for one more year. I understand the logic behind extending him and freeing up salary for next year.... BUT at 3for 30 you only save 5 mill next year and you tie up 10 each of the next 2 years.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:11 pm to Athletix
His injury history is just too much to make him a piece you rely on which means anything above the MLE is too much for me. Between the TV money in 2 years and the number of SF options on the market next year, next year is the year to get a FA SF. Stretch or dump.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:20 pm to TigerinATL
If you could extend him at 3/25 id be much more interested. That extra 5 mil over 2 years is the difference between a quality bench player and a vet min. That's also essentially extending him for 2 yrs below the MLE.
I actually really like your idea at that price as it marinates more. If he has any conscience it's at least worth a shot in the dark to see if he'd throw you a bone while you show him that you want him here.
I actually really like your idea at that price as it marinates more. If he has any conscience it's at least worth a shot in the dark to see if he'd throw you a bone while you show him that you want him here.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:25 pm to ShamelessPel
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If you could extend him at 3/25 id be much more interested.
i really do wonder what he will get when he hits free agency
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:51 pm to quail man
I have actually thought about this a lot lately and almost started this thread. I was going to wait to see how he looked when he came back but since you brought it up, here it goes.
The number I was thinking is 3/27mil so that is pretty close to 3/30 mil. He seems to have really bought in and at 3/27 you are essentially paying MLE for the last 2 years. Of course, health will always be the overriding factor with him. It is definitely something Dell should at least explore.
The number I was thinking is 3/27mil so that is pretty close to 3/30 mil. He seems to have really bought in and at 3/27 you are essentially paying MLE for the last 2 years. Of course, health will always be the overriding factor with him. It is definitely something Dell should at least explore.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 7:19 am to pleading the fifth
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I think he tries his hardest to like playing in NOLA but it's just not the place he wants to be
What the frick does this even mean?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:04 am to quail man
I'd rather stretch him, than keep him for 15 mil for 1 year or 30 over 3.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:25 am to Epic Cajun
This is probably a question for ATL, but what about trading him at the deadline next year? I know that expiring contracts don't have the value that they used to have, but I wonder which players Demps might target?
I'd hate to have dead money on the books via stretching Gordon. I think the only way he opts out is if we make the playoffs and he goes off in the first round, though...
I'd hate to have dead money on the books via stretching Gordon. I think the only way he opts out is if we make the playoffs and he goes off in the first round, though...
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