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What can republicans do to get back to their great success in the 1980s?
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:04 am
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:04 am
They were winning national elections by comfortable margins in that time. What can they do to get back to that level of electoral success?
NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THREAD DISCUSSING POLICY SUCCESS, BUT POLITICAL SUCCESS.
NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THREAD DISCUSSING POLICY SUCCESS, BUT POLITICAL SUCCESS.
This post was edited on 10/25/14 at 1:06 am
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
stop treating women like children.
That shite don't fly in this century.
That shite don't fly in this century.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Name calling
Race baiting
Sloganeering
It's effective.
Race baiting
Sloganeering
It's effective.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:54 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Come into the 21st century.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 5:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Pendulum swings.
Carter looked inept and Ronnie cleaned his clock. R's were swept in on a rising tide of conservative sentiment.
BHO makes Carter look like a Jedi master. Incumbent D's facing reelection are jumping off the Obama ship like drowning rats.
R's will be in for a few election cycles then it will swing back the other way.
Carter looked inept and Ronnie cleaned his clock. R's were swept in on a rising tide of conservative sentiment.
BHO makes Carter look like a Jedi master. Incumbent D's facing reelection are jumping off the Obama ship like drowning rats.
R's will be in for a few election cycles then it will swing back the other way.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 6:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Try putting forth candidates who are likable but are not afraid to state the policies that they believe in and stick by them.
Reagan was a very likable man, but he took no bullshite in the political arena. He stuck up for concervatives without demeaning others.
Reagan was a very likable man, but he took no bullshite in the political arena. He stuck up for concervatives without demeaning others.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 6:49 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
a.) Broaden base. If the GOP doesn't make inroads with Blacks and Latinos in the next 20 years, it's over. Suggesting that Blacks and Latinos aren't smart enough to vote in their best interest doesn't help.
b.) Minimize power of loony tune right wing and actually pursue sane/workable small government solutions (not trying to do shite like eliminate the IRS - or implement the fair tax - it's not happening - pick something that can pass). Sometimes I the the GOP is trying to lose with some of their ideas.
c.) The 47% attitude (as if to say all 47% are republicans) is off-putting. Claims of "class warfare" over progressive tax structure that has been in place for 80 years irritates people. Screaming for entitlement cuts while in the same breath suggesting there is not room for military cuts is asinine.
b.) Minimize power of loony tune right wing and actually pursue sane/workable small government solutions (not trying to do shite like eliminate the IRS - or implement the fair tax - it's not happening - pick something that can pass). Sometimes I the the GOP is trying to lose with some of their ideas.
c.) The 47% attitude (as if to say all 47% are republicans) is off-putting. Claims of "class warfare" over progressive tax structure that has been in place for 80 years irritates people. Screaming for entitlement cuts while in the same breath suggesting there is not room for military cuts is asinine.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 7:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why aren't people fretting over the Dems not holding the house regularly anymore like they did for decades?
They are probably about to lose the Senate too. But the GOP is the only party with problems?
They are probably about to lose the Senate too. But the GOP is the only party with problems?
This post was edited on 10/25/14 at 7:26 am
Posted on 10/25/14 at 8:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
People were saying the Dems were dead as a party after the 04 elections. This shite is cyclical
R's will have held the Presidency 20 years to the Dems 16 by 2016 elections. Who controls each chamber has gone back and forth.... It's pretty even. Dems won with a popular Obama riding the dissent of those who were sick of Bushs failed policies.
People are sick of the Dems failures now and the tide is turning again
R's will have held the Presidency 20 years to the Dems 16 by 2016 elections. Who controls each chamber has gone back and forth.... It's pretty even. Dems won with a popular Obama riding the dissent of those who were sick of Bushs failed policies.
People are sick of the Dems failures now and the tide is turning again
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:49 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Mass deportations! 
Unqualified abortion!
Guaranteed, unqualified government wage/subsidization for all the unemployable illiterates.
Total removal of the God paradigm (accountable soul for personal moral belief/action) from Government. Which WILL shape the Culture.
Open borders. Multicultural idealism on steroids! 'Give us your tired, uneducated, diseased, gangsta-minded opportunists, Commies and radical Islamists'. Love unlimited! "Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof is destruction" (Biblical).
The above is a surefire way for the Republicans to *win*...and the recipe for Mother Nature to set things back on the common-sense 'straight and narrow'.
Unqualified abortion!
Guaranteed, unqualified government wage/subsidization for all the unemployable illiterates.
Total removal of the God paradigm (accountable soul for personal moral belief/action) from Government. Which WILL shape the Culture.
Open borders. Multicultural idealism on steroids! 'Give us your tired, uneducated, diseased, gangsta-minded opportunists, Commies and radical Islamists'. Love unlimited! "Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof is destruction" (Biblical).
The above is a surefire way for the Republicans to *win*...and the recipe for Mother Nature to set things back on the common-sense 'straight and narrow'.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The republicans need to work on their communication skills and on unifying their message. The republican message is disjointed and often contradictory. It is often communicated in a style that creates false perceptions of bigotry, mysogeny, xenophobia, elitism, callousness, and anti-intellectualism. While the democrats and left-leaning media may do a great job of framing comments and disseminating them, republicans do themselves no favors in making ignorant sounding statements.
What the republicans need to be is a party that at least seems to consistently mean what they say while speaking to a consistent philosophy of individual liberty, small government, accountable government, and efficient government.
They can win on these ideas by actually trying to start conversations with voters. Stop trying to scare them, stop writing off demographics as "leaches" or "sub-classes". Just talk with people, not at them. Speak with belief and conviction, with enumerated policy as the manifestation of that belief. It can be done.
What the republicans need to be is a party that at least seems to consistently mean what they say while speaking to a consistent philosophy of individual liberty, small government, accountable government, and efficient government.
They can win on these ideas by actually trying to start conversations with voters. Stop trying to scare them, stop writing off demographics as "leaches" or "sub-classes". Just talk with people, not at them. Speak with belief and conviction, with enumerated policy as the manifestation of that belief. It can be done.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not much is necessary. They just have to avoid big screw ups.
Reagan (not without his faults ie deficit spending) hit it out of the park in many ways, but he was lucky in a sense the he had Carter tee things up for him by doing so horribly that the next guy was going to look better no matter what.
Same situation here.
Do something with healthcare that will put job creators more at ease and you might see a sharp spike in economic growth. Nothing speaks to the American public like a strong economy. Ride that tide and convince enough people that you had something to do with it and you will be remembered as one of the great ones.
Reagan (not without his faults ie deficit spending) hit it out of the park in many ways, but he was lucky in a sense the he had Carter tee things up for him by doing so horribly that the next guy was going to look better no matter what.
Same situation here.
Do something with healthcare that will put job creators more at ease and you might see a sharp spike in economic growth. Nothing speaks to the American public like a strong economy. Ride that tide and convince enough people that you had something to do with it and you will be remembered as one of the great ones.
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What can republicans do to get back to their great success in the 1980s?
become Libertarians..
next problem you'd like me to solve?
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What can republicans do to get back to their great success in the 1980s? (
Nothing.
America is destined to drift into more socialism than we already have. The decline cannot be stopped.
I'm reminded of a scene in Catch 22:
Old Italian Man to US Soldier: "Do you think America will last forever?"
US Soldier: "Of course."
Old Man: "Forever.....is a very long time."
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
First of all, lets look at the US Presidentail candidates that got beat.
George Bush I. Rode in the WH in 1989 on the coat-tails of Reagen. A patriot and WWII vet BUT he was an old stuffy candidate that got bested by a slick talkiing hillbilly from Arkansas.
Bob Dole, no doubt a good man. A patriot & a WWII vet who served out country honorable. BUT another old stodgy man. Again, he got bested by a silver toungued slim bag.
John McCain. A man who served our country under the most difficult circumstances. A man who wore the countries uniform and help out under the worst circumstances. Was out done by a slick talking racist coummunist.
Mitt Romney. Probably a good man and one heck of a business mind and leader. Probably would have been a very good President. BUT was kind of a stuffy guy * didn't communicate well. Once again, the GOP candidate was bested by a slick talking con artist.
Do you see any similarities in the failed GOP candidates?
Most were probably good men and would have been good presidents.
BUT they were not good communicators and allowed the enemy to define them.
Until the the powers that be at the GOP get this through their thick skulls, the GOP is going to be shut out of the WH.
George Bush I. Rode in the WH in 1989 on the coat-tails of Reagen. A patriot and WWII vet BUT he was an old stuffy candidate that got bested by a slick talkiing hillbilly from Arkansas.
Bob Dole, no doubt a good man. A patriot & a WWII vet who served out country honorable. BUT another old stodgy man. Again, he got bested by a silver toungued slim bag.
John McCain. A man who served our country under the most difficult circumstances. A man who wore the countries uniform and help out under the worst circumstances. Was out done by a slick talking racist coummunist.
Mitt Romney. Probably a good man and one heck of a business mind and leader. Probably would have been a very good President. BUT was kind of a stuffy guy * didn't communicate well. Once again, the GOP candidate was bested by a slick talking con artist.
Do you see any similarities in the failed GOP candidates?
Most were probably good men and would have been good presidents.
BUT they were not good communicators and allowed the enemy to define them.
Until the the powers that be at the GOP get this through their thick skulls, the GOP is going to be shut out of the WH.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
double down on trickle down and explode the deficit with defense spending always seems to work for them
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The answer: Paul Ryan.
Read his book "The Way Forward". That man has the most sensible policy ideas to fix our country's problems that I have ever heard. His ideas are very realistic and not the Republican talking points. I have trouble seeing how a pragmatic, reasonable person could disagree with the plan he's laid out.
The trouble is I'm not sure we can count on >50% of Americans being pragmatic and reasonable.
Read his book "The Way Forward". That man has the most sensible policy ideas to fix our country's problems that I have ever heard. His ideas are very realistic and not the Republican talking points. I have trouble seeing how a pragmatic, reasonable person could disagree with the plan he's laid out.
The trouble is I'm not sure we can count on >50% of Americans being pragmatic and reasonable.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/26/14 at 6:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
More Rockefeller Republicans.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 4:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
In 1977, a columnist for the Boston Globe added up all the constituencies that the GOP had alienated over the course of the decade and wrote that the “Grand Old Party has begun to face the unpleasant fact that it risks becoming a permanent opposition dwarfed by a much larger ruling party.” Another notion, which Perlstein describes, was the widespread belief that the rise of the Now Generation would drag the whole spectrum of opinion leftward—just like millennials are expected to do today.
Quoted from this article highlighting Carter & Obama's similarities and differences.
Like I said earlier, pendulum swings.
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