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Tax revenues hit all time high for FY 2014

Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:28 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162294 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:28 am
I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa? Isn't that the narrative here? Why didn't it happen?

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Inflation-adjusted federal tax revenues hit a record $2,469,178,000,000 for the first 10 months of the fiscal year this July, but the federal government still ran a $460,450,000,000 deficit during that time, according to the Monthly Treasury Statement.


I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:39 am to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa? Isn't that the narrative here? Why didn't it happen?


Only when the burden of taxation outweighs the benefits of employment. The folks who think that the difference between 35% and 39% is catastrophic have apparently never read a history book. I would like to note that the capital gains rate remained unchanged.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:45 am to
And we wonder why the economy is SHYT !!!

Goverment giving money to lazy bastards who blow it on B.S.

Same money if kept in the hands of TAXED TO DEATH men would be used for JOB CREATION.


YEAAAA WE ARE SCREWING OURSELVES.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:56 am to
Well it's settled then. We don't ned to cut spending, just raise taxes even more.

Hey, if we tax 100% of all income, maybe the govenment's revenue will go even higher. Progress.

Isn't that right Powerman.

After all, it's the goverments money, citezens should have no right to any of it...unless the omnipotent government says it's OK.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36535 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
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I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.


A 460 Billion dollar deficit is a bad thing.



Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19324 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:06 pm to
If tax revenues are increasing why isn't the deficit shrinking?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119500 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
I thought rich people didn't pay their fair share.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:10 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa?


When did the rates go up?
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10237 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:15 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa?


When rates go up, revenues can go up - to a point - but that revenue increase slows as you continue to raise rates. You will eventually get to a point of no return, and then decline.



Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:40 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa?
what rates have gone up?

If anything this data show Romney was right. A healthy(er) economy is the best way to raise revenues.

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I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.
More money taken out if the hands of citizens and malinvested by the government is never a good thing
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55542 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:42 pm to
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I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.


Record-high theft!
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.


I'm curious to see why you think you should have to give up more of YOUR money because the government can spend it better than you...
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11948 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing

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but the federal government still ran a $460,450,000,000 deficit during that time


This is a start
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:16 pm to
Why would it ever be a good thing that a government is taking more from it's citizens?
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:17 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa? Isn't that the narrative here? Why didn't it happen?

find a post citing that an increase in rates results in a decline in revenue over the short term. go on, ill wait.

while im waiting, heres a downvote.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9142 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.


So, we have the highest collection of tax revenues of ALL TIME, yet we are STILL running deficits that are nearly half a fricking TRILLION dollars.

Can Liberals finally admit that spending is fricking WAY out of control?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76650 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:55 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa?


The true Laffer or "Laugher" curve:



Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.



Yeah I'm sure the government having more of our money to waste is really a good thing. Silly us for thinking otherwise.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91219 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:12 pm to
Short term revenue will increase but long term it will decrease as higher rates drive companies overseas and people have less money to spend, which slows consumption and economic growth.

Tax cuts decrease revenue short term but gain revenue long term due to people having more money to spend, increasing consumption and economic growth
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:13 pm to
Welcome back, Powerman. I thought you might have grown tired of this wearisome, withering place.

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