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re: Archaeologist Carbon-Date Camel Bones, Discover Major Discrepancy In Bible Story
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:01 am to JOJO Hammer
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:01 am to JOJO Hammer
Just felt like this belongs here
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:04 am to beejon
The BCE stuff is stupid.
Using the term BC or AD dosen't make you a Christian.
It reminds me of the small people that don't capitalize "God" in a sentence because they are afraid that people will think they believe if they do.
Using the term BC or AD dosen't make you a Christian.
It reminds me of the small people that don't capitalize "God" in a sentence because they are afraid that people will think they believe if they do.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:06 am to VetteGuy
Before Christ-Evans
He dropped the hyphenated last name after graduation and he started claiming himself.
He dropped the hyphenated last name after graduation and he started claiming himself.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:07 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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The BCE stuff is stupid. Using the term BC or AD dosen't make you a Christian. It reminds me of the small people that don't capitalize "God" in a sentence because they are afraid that people will think they believe if they do.
Agreed
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:11 am to WG_Dawg
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No one living today can unequivocally say what they were doing back then.
We can and we do. Pfft.... Bro, do you even church?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:17 am to Displaced
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Before Common Era
This term really pisses me off, and it's not politically correct, it's politically wrong. What do we have in common with people who lived in the Dark Ages? What was the big thing that happened between 1 CE and 1 BCE? It's not as if they discovered the printing press then. It is the estimated date of the birth of Christ.
If you want a "Common Era", then redo the dates completely. The only times that make sense are the start of the Renaissance, Columbus' discovery of America, The founding of the United States, the start of the Industrial Revolution, or the moment we dropped the first Atomic Bomb. A time when barbarian savages can come into your town and rape, kill, and plunder everything doesn't sound like a "Common Era".
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:18 am to OMLandshark
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If you want a "Common Era", then redo the dates completely.
Great idea. That should work well.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:20 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:keep telling yourself that.
everyone should quit trying to convert everyone else. To either side.
Then it'll just work itself out naturally.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:25 am to JBeam
I just think of BCE as Before [the] Christian Era.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:28 am to deNYEd
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It's a novel, nothing more.
Oh, I see; so you've never read it.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:30 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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everyone should quit trying to convert everyone else. To either side. Then it'll just work itself out naturally.
It would all work out great if you'd just let me talk to you about Jesus.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:38 am to JOJO Hammer
I feel a bit dumb, but I missed the discrepancy. Can someone point it out to me?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:42 am to WDE24
In all honesty, regardless of the Bible, I have a really hard time believing that at least someone did not bring a camel into Israel before the Muslims arrived.
EDIT: Oh, BC. Doh.
EDIT: Oh, BC. Doh.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:43 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:43 am to deNYEd
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It's a novel, nothing more.
I hope I live another 1500 years so I can witness the Harry Potter Crusades.
The problem with the Bible is that too many people want to take it literally and as an acurate document of historic events. If people didn't run around claiming everything in it to be true, other people wouldn't run around trying to disprove it.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:44 am to JOJO Hammer
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Using carbon-dating to determine the age of the oldest-known camel bones, the researchers determined that camels were first introduced to Israel around the 9th century BCE.
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The Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament refers to camels as pack animals as early as the story of Abraham. Though there is no archaeological evidence of Abraham's life, many in the religious and scientific communities, including Chabad and the Associates For Biblical Research, cite the 20th century BCE as his time of birth. If the new evidence is correct, however, this suggests discrepancies between the Bible and human history as explained by science.
The researchers scoured ancient copper production sites in the Aravah Valley, where camel bones were only present in sites active in the last third of the 10 century and the 9th century BCE. Sapir-Hen and Ben-Yosef write in their report:
"[The camel bones] demonstrate a sudden appearance of camels at the site, following a major change in the organization of production in the entire region."
So just because camel bones only appear at this one site in the Aravah Valley in the 10th and 9th century BCE, they conclude that no camels existed anywhere in all of Israel until that time? Well that's a bit of stretch.
I wonder if my poor dog that died when I was 10 and we buried in the back yard will be discovered by archeologists in a couple thousand years and hailed as proof that no dogs existed west of the Mississippi River until the late 20th century?
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:50 am to VetteGuy
quote:well using AD (anno domini translates into "in the year of our lord") sounds pretty dumb if you aren't a Christian.
Using the term BC or AD dosen't make you a Christian.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:00 am to VetteGuy
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It reminds me of the small people that don't capitalize "God" in a sentence because they are afraid that people will think they believe if they do.
Or the people that do capitalize it because they worry he'll get pissed.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:02 am to baytiger
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well using AD (anno domini translates into "in the year of our lord") sounds pretty dumb if you aren't a Christian.
Replacing it and BC makes people sound like a overly sensitive and insecure douches. It's not like saying BC or AD is tantamount to being Baptized or speaking in tongues.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:03 am to baytiger
So when I say "GAAP" I'm dumb if I'm not an accountant?
It's just a term. You can say it or write it and no one automatically assumes you are a Christian.
It's just a term. You can say it or write it and no one automatically assumes you are a Christian.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:03 am to GRTiger
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Or the people that do capitalize it because they worry he'll get pissed.
Pissed? He loves us so much he came to earth to experience life like one of us and die for us. But, he'll be pissed if we don't capitalize God? You really don't understand Christianity.
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