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re: Who is the worst MNC team and Heisman winner in the last 10 years

Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:24 pm to
BTW,

2007 LSU and Ingram.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11368 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:25 pm to
2007 LSU

Troy Smith
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8778 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

2007 LSU

Mark Ingram


This
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33963 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:26 pm to
Worst MNC team: 2006 Florida or 2007 LSU

I actually think 2006 Florida was the worst team but 2007 LSU had two losses in a really weak year for college football.

Worst Heisman Trophy Winner: Mark Ingram or Troy Smith

To this day, I don't understand how Troy Smith won the Heisman Trophy by such an overwhelming margin. His numbers in 2006 were very similar to the stats A.J. McCarron put up last year.

Troy Smith: 203-311, 65.3 Comp%, 2542 yards, 30 TDs, 6 INTs, 62 rushes, 228 yards, 1 TD

A.J. McCarron: 211-314, 67.2 Comp%, 2933 yards, 30 TDs, 3 INTs, 49 rushes, 174 yards, 1 TDs

McCarron actually put up better passing numbers across the board. But everybody downplays his Heisman chances while Troy Smith managed to win the Heisman in 2006 by a record margin. McFadden should have won the Heisman that year.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52878 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:27 pm to
JaMarcus was the best QB in college football that year.
Posted by VolsWillWin
Member since Oct 2013
70 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:30 pm to
It's weird b/c I think Troy Smith was actually a superior college player to Mark Ingram, but was less deserving based on the other candidates that year, vs. Ingram's year.

Ingram basically benefitted from a shitty year of candidates (except for Suh, i can't quite remember if that was Suh's big year, but frick Suh anyway).

Troy was a bit better, but it was a more egregious error that he won.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:31 pm to
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2007 LSU had two losses in a really weak year for college football.


How are you determining what weak year is in college football?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39606 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

I actually think 2006 Florida was the worst team but 2007 LSU had two losses in a really weak year for college football.


I appreciate your post, but as an interesting note. Many LSU fans would say 2006 team better than 2007 team and UF beat
that team. Teams catch breaks, don't catch breaks, etc
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
Mark Ingram at least showed out against the #1 rushing defense in the land in the national title game. Troy Smith did not. He sucked it up on the biggest stage and his numbers were inferior to 2012 AJ McCarron - a player who wasn't even invited to New York.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164339 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
2002 Ohio State was pretty bad.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
2007 LSU

Mark Ingram
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33963 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

How are you determining what weak year is in college football?


When Kansas wins a BCS bowl game and Hawaii plays in the Sugar Bowl, it's a weak year for college football.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139866 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
They were unanimous number 1 Smith lit up Michigan who was #2 last week of season it wasn't a bad choice at time.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:32 pm to
Don't forget Smith's line against UF in the MNC:

4-14, 35 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
Posted by benhamin5555
Member since Oct 2009
2368 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:33 pm to
2009 Bama and 2009 Mark Ingram
Posted by VolsWillWin
Member since Oct 2013
70 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:35 pm to
To be fair, 2007 was a really weak year for college football, but a really strong year for the SEC, IMO.

So I wouldn't say it takes anything away from LSU that year.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:38 pm to
2010 Auburn - Troy Smith
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29005 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:48 pm to
I completely and utterly did not mean to have a no message OP

My thoughts were a tie on 2007 LSU and 2002 OSU

Ingram and Troy Smith. I hate to say that on Smith because he had a great year and then just crapped the bed in the MNC gamem
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

2009 Bama and 2009 Mark Ingram


This.

Had a dog fight against a backup QB from the Big12.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/13/13 at 6:50 pm to
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I hate to say that on Smith because he had a great year and then just cropped the bed in the MNC game


His numbers in 2006 were inferior to AJ McCarron's in 2012. McCarron wasn't even invited to New York.

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