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re: What was your most depressing day as a sports fan?
Posted on 10/9/13 at 11:34 am to ugasickem
Posted on 10/9/13 at 11:34 am to ugasickem
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Also Monday night was bad.
Not trying to rub it in, but I read in the AJC, one of the columnists said Monday was bad, but a similar day in 2005 was worse. Here it is:
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Thus did Oct. 7 and the early moments of Oct. 8 in the year 2013 stand alongside the dark doings of Oct. 9, 2005, in the annals of Atlanta sporting infamy. That day the Falcons had rallied from a 28-13 fourth-quarter deficit behind No. 2 quarterback Matt Schaub -- starting because Michael Vick was injured -- to tie New England at 28 in the Georgia Dome, whereupon Tom Brady drove the Patriots within sight of Adam Vinatieri's winning field goal with 17 seconds remaining.
Then the Braves would squander a 6-1 lead as closer Kyle Farnsworth, who WAS summoned in the eighth inning, yielded a grand slam to Lance Berkman and then, in the ninth, a tying homer to Brad Ausmus. The end would come much, much later, when Chris Burke homered off Joey Devine with one out in the 18th. The winning pitcher? Roger Clemens, who entered in the 16th.
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Posted on 10/9/13 at 11:34 am to H-Town Tiger
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Saints then proceeded to blow a 20-10 4th quarter lead to lose to the Eagles 36-20.
G'dang Toi Cook!
Posted on 10/9/13 at 11:36 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
MJ's final retirement.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 11:37 am to H-Town Tiger
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This and the guy that said the 2011 Kentucky game are taking Jefferson hate and Lee love way too far. Jefferson was bad, but Lee was no better and maybe a little worse. Lee played OK in 2011 but not great, but LSU does not win the 11/5 9-6 game without Jefferson. Lee threw an awful pick in t he 3rd, that Mark Barron returned inside the 5. There was a block in the back on the return which negated the run back, otherwise Bama would have won, becuase they would have scored a TD from the 2. Lee threw something like 1 TD and 7 picks in 4 career games vs Alabama. He was not the answer. Its admirable that he stayed at LSU after the 2008 pick 6 fiasco and I understand why people like him more the Jefferson, but he was just not a good QB, at least Jefferson could run, that usually gives Saban's D a little trouble, though having a mulligan negated that.
I get what you're saying,and I agree that we probably don't beat Bama without JJ...but as we found out the result of that game didn't matter
Personally, I was just frustrated Lee didn't at least get a shot in the championship game. It's not like JJ set the world on fire in any of his starts. The same quick hook that Lee got for playing bad should have been extended to JJ as well.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:43 pm to craigbiggio
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Personally, I was just frustrated Lee didn't at least get a shot in the championship game. It's not like JJ set the world on fire in any of his starts. The same quick hook that Lee got for playing bad should have been extended to JJ as well.
As bad as JJ played in that game, they should have given him a breather if nothing else. Put in Lee to hand off to the FB down 15-0
I would have rather seen Mettenberger, at least Bama had never seen him. As for the hook, lets not forget that if not for the Shady's incident, Lee probably would not have played at all in 2011. To his credit he played ok, not special, but ok. I just don't think Les ever trusted Lee after 2008 and the pick by Barron was just the final straw. Also keep in mind, Bama's lost 7 games since 2008 and JJ was a key player in 2 of them.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:49 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Top 2 in recent memory:
1. LSU loss to Bama last season.
2. Saints loss to SF in playoffs 2 seasons ago.
Oldest memory of most depressing day:
Saints lose on last second FG to Rams in last game of the season. If Saints win they have first winning season in franchise history. At least that's what I recall - I was a very young kid at the time. So young that I should not have been so distraught about that game (but I was).
1. LSU loss to Bama last season.
2. Saints loss to SF in playoffs 2 seasons ago.
Oldest memory of most depressing day:
Saints lose on last second FG to Rams in last game of the season. If Saints win they have first winning season in franchise history. At least that's what I recall - I was a very young kid at the time. So young that I should not have been so distraught about that game (but I was).
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
Let's not kid ourselves. If Saban could have gameplanned for Jefferson in the first game, he would not have been anywhere near as effective. Lee didn't play "okay" in 2011, we played quite well as a pocket passer in a Les Miles offense. His deep ball with Randle was among the best special situation duos in the country. It would have been one thing if JJ was actually fast and had straight line speed. He was just a relatively strong runner going up against a massive DL and LB corps that was ready to match up with him because Saban schemed for it. It was doomed from the start. The irony is that Miles yanked Lee at the first excuse he had to do so, while Jefferson was given shitloads of chances to frick up again. Furthermore, Jefferson showed a shitty attitude throughout the game and Lee never pouted. They had different skill sets, but Lee was light years ahead of Jefferson in terms of effectiveness.
This post was edited on 10/9/13 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
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looking back it's amazing what a watershed moment that was.
As a little kid in Maryland, I viewed Bias like Superman. Superman couldn't die. It would be like if Patrick Peterson died a few days after the NFL Draft for a 8 year old LSU fan.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:37 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Heat vs Mavs - was soooo mad.
1/9 - not even talking about this
1/9 - not even talking about this
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:54 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
EASILY 1/9. I was so depressed during the 4th quarter and walking back to the hotel after that I didn't even go out that night.
This post was edited on 10/9/13 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:58 pm to lsu480
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EASILY 1/9
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:59 pm to acgeaux129
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Let's not kid ourselves. If Saban could have gameplanned for Jefferson in the first game, he would not have been anywhere near as effective
Jefferson played a month before the 11/5 game, plus the 2010 game vs Bama and they had a bye before playing LSU. They knew JJ would play.
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Lee didn't play "okay" in 2011, we played quite well as a pocket passer in a Les Miles offense. His deep ball with Randle was among the best special situation duos in the country.
If you look at it objectively and take JJ out of the equation, he was ok. Nothing special. He had a pretty good arm and made some nice throws, but we were mostly beating the hell out of everyone. Oh and Jefferson had a nice long throw to Randle against Auburn (as did Lee) and the one against Bama in 2010 was JJ.
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The irony is that Miles yanked Lee at the first excuse he had to do so, while Jefferson was given shitloads of chances to frick up again. Furthermore, Jefferson showed a shitty attitude throughout the game and Lee never pouted. They had different skill sets, but Lee was light years ahead of Jefferson in terms of effectiveness.
Most of this is not true (the last statement is laughable) and just a product of hate for Jefferson/proof that the other QB is always the most popular guy on the team. 2008 happened and right wrong or indifferent, Miles just never trusted Lee after that. JJ was terrible against UGA, but Lee's pick on 11/5 would have cost us the game (and frankly a trip to the BCS CG) if not for the penalty by Bama on the run back. JJ was key in the 10 and 11 wins vs Bama. Clearly Bama planned to stop JJ from taking off in the 2nd game with a soft rush and I agree they should have taken him out for at least a series, but it wouldn't have mattered. Look, Both were awful and I'm glad they are gone
Hopfully our QB's going forward will be much better. Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:02 pm to tigerpimpbot
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EASILY 1/9
I'm still depressed about this.
The only reason the Alabama game last year isn't higher is that it happened a week before my wedding so I had a shitload of other things to worry about.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:03 pm to Baloo
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As a little kid in Maryland, I viewed Bias like Superman. Superman couldn't die. It would be like if Patrick Peterson died a few days after the NFL Draft for a 8 year old LSU fan.
I was in HS and have never been to Maryland effected me too. I even wrote a letter to SI about it, it wasn't published, but they sent a "thanks for your letter, letter". Heck they made a 30 for 30 about it. Athletes had died before and since, but Bias' death was a bigger deal.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:10 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
13-9
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Jefferson played a month before the 11/5 game, plus the 2010 game vs Bama and they had a bye before playing LSU. They knew JJ would play.
He didn't start prior to that. Jumbo sets or obvious running situations against UK do not constitute a starting job. They definitely schemed for Jefferson, but only provisionally. Let's also realize that the defense and some good luck won that game. It's not like Jefferson even scored, although we did move the ball better in the second half.
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If you look at it objectively and take JJ out of the equation, he was ok. Nothing special. He had a pretty good arm and made some nice throws, but we were mostly beating the hell out of everyone. Oh and Jefferson had a nice long throw to Randle against Auburn (as did Lee) and the one against Bama in 2010 was JJ.
Not really, and it's fallacious to remove JJ from the equation since that's the topic we are discussing. If you look at his stats objectively, he exceed what you would want in a typical game manager for a NC team. He was vastly more accurate and clearly had better vision as a passer. He protected the ball, maneuvered well in the pocket (his OL wasn pretty solid though) given his lack of mobility, and showed tremendous improvement in terms of confidence. He shite the bed on that one play against Bama, I'll give you that.
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Most of this is not true (the last statement is laughable) and just a product of hate for Jefferson/proof that the other QB is always the most popular guy on the team. 2008 happened and right wrong or indifferent, Miles just never trusted Lee after that. JJ was terrible against UGA, but Lee's pick on 11/5 would have cost us the game (and frankly a trip to the BCS CG) if not for the penalty by Bama on the run back. JJ was key in the 10 and 11 wins vs Bama. Clearly Bama planned to stop JJ from taking off in the 2nd game with a soft rush and I agree they should have taken him out for at least a series, but it wouldn't have mattered. Look, Both were awful and I'm glad they are gone Hopfully our QB's going forward will be much better.
Meh, if you would like to dismiss my argument with trite message board shite, that's fine. From a risk-reward perspective, there's no question that Lee offered a lot more, especially for a team trailing against a great rushing attack with a dominant OL. Regardless of how Jefferson happened to do against Bama in the past (09 being a pretty poor example), it was clear that a change was in order. But, personally, I think Miles is generally a huge fricking idiot as a game manager.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:15 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Only two that I can think of: 1/9 and 2003 NLCS Game 7. LSU/Tennessee 2010 would've slipped in if it wasn't for the penalty.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 3:42 pm to PKTiger
The first two that I thought of were:
1985 Iron Bowl: Bama got the ball with less than a minute, drove down field and Van Tiffin kicked a 52 yard field goal as time expired.
1991 World Series Game 7
1985 Iron Bowl: Bama got the ball with less than a minute, drove down field and Van Tiffin kicked a 52 yard field goal as time expired.
1991 World Series Game 7
Posted on 10/9/13 at 3:48 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
The OSU loss to Florida in the NC game.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 3:54 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
1/9 and it's not even close.
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