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re: Game of Thrones S3:E10 "Mhysa" Hodors Beware, SPOILERS INSIDE
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:56 am to ladytiger118
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:56 am to ladytiger118
Hodor is exactly the way Hodor was portrayed in the books. Might be the most accurate of all on TV
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:56 am to Putty
quote:
Balon dying
I am okay with him living for now, I don't think it would have been a powerful moment more a WTF this crazy old man just fell off a bridge.
Joff's death needs to be a surprise IMO, they have done enough foreshadowing.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:59 am to Putty
quote:possibly. he is also enamored by dragons and Targ history. he used to read books about them all the time as a child in Casterly Rock. The Targs are his heroes, not his family
You mean that would work for riding dragons?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:02 am to manwich
I think we all want Tyrion to be a Targ simply bc he is awesome and someone to root for but that seems too traditional for GRRM. Knowing GRRM Tyrion will finally get to ride a dragon and then it will eat him
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:03 am to hiltacular
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:10 am to YumYum Sauce
I think show Hodor really captures book Hodor's essence well. Even if it is just saying "Hodor" repeatedly . Hodor's comic relief prevented me from skipping some of Bran's boring POV chapters in the books.
. Hodor's comic relief prevented me from skipping some of Bran's boring POV chapters in the books.Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:18 am to Tiger in NY
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I get that, but the fact that they wrote Patchface out of the show tells me he is not important.
FWIW, you can't make that inference back to the book story.
They have already killed characters in the show that GRRM expressly told them to leave alone because they become important later in spite of being minor now.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:20 am to Putty
Reading the books I didn't buy into Tyrion as a Targ. But the show seems to he really pushing that he's at the very least not a Lannister.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:21 am to ladytiger118
I agree on everyone's Hodor love.
I think the Hodor talking down the well scene may have been an homage to LOTR and the Pippin/Gandalf "fool of a Took" scene.
I think the Hodor talking down the well scene may have been an homage to LOTR and the Pippin/Gandalf "fool of a Took" scene.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:30 am to Putty
The Joanna raping I give at best even money odds but think it unlikely, but this:
Not a chance in hell. Not one. Too much has been made for his love of her as the sole time he has shown simple affection for anyone.
And either raping or cuckholding seems unlikely as they would have made Robert's rebellion a personal matter.
He would have figured out a way to get Jaime out from under Aerys and joined the rebels early on
quote:
Also would not be surprised to learn that his wife didn't "die in childbirth" but that Tywin axed her for cheating.
Not a chance in hell. Not one. Too much has been made for his love of her as the sole time he has shown simple affection for anyone.
And either raping or cuckholding seems unlikely as they would have made Robert's rebellion a personal matter.
He would have figured out a way to get Jaime out from under Aerys and joined the rebels early on
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:33 am to YumYum Sauce
Comment from Hodor thread regarding Arya and the coin:
quote:.
She's supposed to give the coin to someone from Bravos, and then say the words. Then Jaqhen (sp?) will appear like a State Farm agent or something
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:34 am to Dire Wolf
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I am still think that they show some of the book 4 story lines next season. They don't need 10 episodes to finish the book but i also ate some crow pie cause of np PW.
I was just trying to think if there's enough of Book 3 left to fill up s4, or if we'll definitely get a good chunk of Book 4 in s4. I'm recalling:
- The Wildlings vs. The Watch at the Wall
- Stanis to the rescue and the election of Jon Snow
- The death of the Hound & Arya gets on a boat
- Balon's death
- Purple Wedding
- Tyrion's trial/Mountain vs. Viper
- Tywin vs. Tyrion
- Jamies estrangement from Cersei (beginnings?)
- Littlefinger & Sansa & the death of Lyssa
- Catelyn returns
- The exile of Jorah
- More w/Danerys? I forget what's left there - the Sons of the Harpy (or was that only in Book 5)?
hmmm...guess that seems like quite a bit.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:41 am to ctowner1
quote:5 is concurrent with 4 so TV season 4 will have bits from three different books
(or was that only in Book 5)
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:42 am to manwich
quote:
he is also enamored by dragons and Targ history. he used to read books about them all the time as a child in Casterly Rock. The Targs are his heroes, not his family
He's enamored with all history. He's not fond of his family because of the way they have treated him.
I'm not buying Tyrion is a Targ, just doesn't really make sense in the story.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:46 am to Hugo Stiglitz
That. Is. Awesome.
The Manderly/Davos chapter in ADWD is probably the most satisfying since the RW.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:49 am to EarthwormJim
quote:i don't know that he'll be riding dragons as a secret Targ but he definitely likes the Targ history, dreams about dragons, enjoys talking about them with the griff crew and wants to serve Dany. Him actually being a Targ is a little cheesy though
I'm not buying Tyrion is a Targ, just doesn't really make sense in the story.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:56 am to NIH
I thought it was a very decent finale. some thoughts..
- I didn't have anywhere as big a problem w/the Dany crowd mosh ending. Yes, a little cheesy, but they just showed the Lannisters basically conquering Westeros, so they ended with a counterpoint: Dany's rising star. which is the directions the books go in anyway, gearing up for a Lanister/Targaryon throwdown (be it Dany or Aegon).
- Am I wrong, or did they shift the emphasis of Stanis' decision to go to the wall. My recollection of the book is that it emphasized his personal integrity by having him choose to forestall his personal conquest of Westeros in favor of going North to save the entire realm. The way it palyed last night, Stanis is basically pushed into doing it by Meisandre and Davos.
- Arya's looking at the coin and saying "Valor Marghulis" doesn't do anything, does it? Doesn't she need to give it to a Bravos guy?
- The Shae/Varys scene was completely new, right? Interesting in that it propagates the notion that Shae is utterly devoted to Tyrion, when she will ultimately betray him, right? So why did the writers feel the need to prop up the idea that she truly loves him?
- I'm fuzzy on what Asha/Yara does in the book. Does she go all the way back to the Iron Islands, and then back again to rescue Theon? Or did she not return to the Iron Islands until after Balon died, and then we got the Kingsmoot?
- Every scene with Tywin in it was spectacular, from Tywin/Joff to Tywin /Tyrion. They're especially setting up Tyrion's patricide very nicely.
All in all, a solid season - hope they can keep this up. I'm hoping we get 2 season per book, so that we're done w/book 5 through s8, and then s9&10 are book 6. Hopefully by then there's an outside shot that book 7 is close to done? (not holding my breath).
- I didn't have anywhere as big a problem w/the Dany crowd mosh ending. Yes, a little cheesy, but they just showed the Lannisters basically conquering Westeros, so they ended with a counterpoint: Dany's rising star. which is the directions the books go in anyway, gearing up for a Lanister/Targaryon throwdown (be it Dany or Aegon).
- Am I wrong, or did they shift the emphasis of Stanis' decision to go to the wall. My recollection of the book is that it emphasized his personal integrity by having him choose to forestall his personal conquest of Westeros in favor of going North to save the entire realm. The way it palyed last night, Stanis is basically pushed into doing it by Meisandre and Davos.
- Arya's looking at the coin and saying "Valor Marghulis" doesn't do anything, does it? Doesn't she need to give it to a Bravos guy?
- The Shae/Varys scene was completely new, right? Interesting in that it propagates the notion that Shae is utterly devoted to Tyrion, when she will ultimately betray him, right? So why did the writers feel the need to prop up the idea that she truly loves him?
- I'm fuzzy on what Asha/Yara does in the book. Does she go all the way back to the Iron Islands, and then back again to rescue Theon? Or did she not return to the Iron Islands until after Balon died, and then we got the Kingsmoot?
- Every scene with Tywin in it was spectacular, from Tywin/Joff to Tywin /Tyrion. They're especially setting up Tyrion's patricide very nicely.
All in all, a solid season - hope they can keep this up. I'm hoping we get 2 season per book, so that we're done w/book 5 through s8, and then s9&10 are book 6. Hopefully by then there's an outside shot that book 7 is close to done? (not holding my breath).
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:58 am to manwich
Agreed. I think Tyrion is Tywin's son.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the "at least 1 or more of Tywin's kids are Aerys's spawn!" theory. I'd just prefer all 3 of them to be Tywin's children. Some people think Tyrion is Targ, others say Cersei and Jaime. And if we're to believe/speculate that Jon Snow may be half Targ as well, that's too many secret half Targs running around.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the "at least 1 or more of Tywin's kids are Aerys's spawn!" theory. I'd just prefer all 3 of them to be Tywin's children. Some people think Tyrion is Targ, others say Cersei and Jaime. And if we're to believe/speculate that Jon Snow may be half Targ as well, that's too many secret half Targs running around.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:59 am to ctowner1
quote:i thought they cheapened his sense of duty over glory too. it felt like he decided to go north just to rub it in Davos' face that he'll follow the Red God's lead no matter what and so will Davos
Stanis is basically pushed into doing it by Meisandre and Davos
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:01 am to ctowner1
quote:no
Arya's looking at the coin and saying "Valor Marghulis" doesn't do anything, does it?
quote:yes
Doesn't she need to give it to a Bravos guy?
quote:yes. yes. you just answered your own question. she will have a massive turnaround and Varys will be proven right.
The Shae/Varys scene was completely new, right? Interesting in that it propagates the notion that Shae is utterly devoted to Tyrion, when she will ultimately betray him, right? So why did the writers feel the need to prop up the idea that she truly loves him?
quote:this, i think
she not return to the Iron Islands until after Balon died, and then we got the Kingsmoot
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 11:03 am
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