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And I'm still fascinated that we need 20 times the energy today to make it to the moon
Let me tell you what Starship is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some frickin' muscle.
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How massively heavy was it man?
3100 tons to starship's 5000 tons

I guess the added weight at liftoff and escape plus low g landing plus low g liftoff plus return plus landing on earth needs that much more. The initial liftoff and escape would account for a significant increase but 20 refuelings does seem excessive, but I'm no rocket scientist
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Do you realize that you guys are saying the rocket needed 45k kg of fuel to get to the moon?
2.8 million kg

remember?
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Errerrerrwere
do you realize you questioned the Apollo mission veracity because of musk and nasa's fuel estimations for a different mission with different scenarios multiple times?

the constant insults and 'you're boring me' lines don't make you look superior btw
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now you want me to jump through more hoops? This time you'll just attack the source, right?
not if it's legit and relevant

I'm not seeing the connection between Apollo and Musk's missions that you leaned on.
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Look you smug frick
guilty as charged
the difference is that your links only referred to NASA's evaluations of the much different Musk mission, not the Apollo fuel needs.

They are completely different payload and landing scenarios and are irrelevant to proving whether a moon landing happened or not.

If that's your confusion, then congrats. We helped someone today
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according to who?


The Saturn program
I'd like to see a source on that but I get it if you want to just sit on that
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But those quantities aren't valid.

sigh. according to who?
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I know it's a different program
you have your answer. once again, vastly different usage and goals.

you have the answer but feel free to revel in your willful ignorance. it can be tough to let go of fun beliefs

personally, I think it would be cool if it was faked. I just don't see how you can believe in it after even a tiny bit of fact checking
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4M kg just to overcome escape velocity.

according to who?

they used 2.8 MM kg of 2 fuels, kerosene and LOX

what's your point? I'm genuinely interested to see some engineering level explanations here since I may be missing your implication

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Link? Let's see what ya got, science boy.
do your own research, kid
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Care to argue anything that Elon said that I posted?
not trying to break up your little spat but it's apples to oranges

Different rocket sizes with different fuels with different payloads with different landing plans
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Tell us the temp on the moon on the sunny side
260°F (127°C) in sunlight

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tell us what the radiation exposure there and back would be
depends on the shielding
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How big was the Rover?
Wheelbase 7.5 ft (2.3 m)
Length 10 ft (3.0 m)
Height 3.6 feet (1.1 m)
462 lbs
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And how was it transported?
Each LRV was carried to the Moon folded up in the Lunar Module's Quadrant 1 Bay. After being unpacked, each was driven an average of 20 miles (30 km), without major incident.
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You only know what “They” wanted you and everyone else to know.

Some fall for it and others ask questions because they don’t take the word of the biggest propaganda machine in the word.
literally thousands of people independently verified it across the globe.

this conspiracy is easily the dumbest I've heard because it isn't wild speculation, it's verifiably false
Switching over after the Ace PT owner video hit?
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Maybe we're all dead and this is purgatory
that's not gonna go well for me if Chicken hasn't purged my post history like I asked
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terd

Ella's better half


Schwartz
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It truly is amazing you are asking this question.
OP's optimism and naivety must be studied
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Frank has an offer from LSU in hand, but it is not as running back coach
then he's pointless. His strength is in off-campus recruiting. If he isn't an on-field coach, he can't be an off-campus recruiter.
And Lane isn't having his experienced buddy Kevin Smith be an analyst

I could be wrong if the rule has indeed changed. We'll see
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He was named captain at Arizona State, then they trashed his locker.

Here's the TMZ video of anyone hasn't seen it