re: Best TV Show of All Time

Lost lost me after about 5 episodes. I just don't have the patience to watch flashback after flashback, where nothing ever seems to happen or get resolved. Doesnt make it a bad show, just not for me.

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It wasn't ambitious at all, it was intriguing yes, and wildly successful because of the mystery, but there have been way more ambitious shows.

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How was LOST not ambitious? I mean I might give the Wire credit for being more ambitious of a program, and I have yet to see Battlestar Galactica to where I don't have much to say on the subject.

My vote goes to the Simpsons. I don't care that it's fallen off so badly lately. I look at golden-age Simpsons as a totally different show from modern Simpsons.

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Who is the guy between Woody and Cliff?

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Robin Colcord. Rich guy that dated Rebecca in the last season or so.

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Robin was an English multi-millionaire industrialist, who spent most of his time on Cheers as a love interest for the gold-digging Rebecca Howe. This led to his developing something of a rivalry with Sam Malone because of Sam's own romantic interest in Rebecca. Robin had a high sense of self-importance, was somewhat manipulative, and often made condescending remarks. He felt he could buy off anyone, which, at Cheers, often proved to be true.

In Season 8, Rebecca and Sam discovered that Robin was plotting a hostile takeover of the company for which they worked, and to aid him, had been secretly and illegally using Rebecca's access to the company's confidential information. Rebecca chose to conceal Robin's activities for the sake of their relationship. However, Sam discovered that the company suspected Rebecca of being a willing corporate spy. To protect her, Sam revealed Robin's crimes. Amidst the ensuing scandal, Robin was arrested and briefly sent to prison as well as losing his business positions and money. He and Rebecca planned to marry on his release, despite his new humble status. She chose not to go through with this, after which he revealed he still had some of his fortune in a secret stash but that he would not marry her if she had only wanted his money.

He appeared a final time in the last season claiming to be a broke vagabond, and a petty fugitive, and asking to reunite with Rebecca. The episode ended with him and Rebecca attempting to hitchhike out of town, Rebecca convinced this was a second test.

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The Wire is certainly the most IMPORTANT tv ever, and thus the greatest too.

But for comedy, I had to bump this thread to put in a word for The Mary Tyler Moore Show. There is some shite in there that is soooo funny. As my wife recently said "watching this show is like injecting happiness into my veins". It has to be the best ever of the "traditional" sitcoms and really defines the genre even to this day. Seinfeld broke the mold, and was probably equally great, but nobody was ever really better than MTM. I think it's the height of the sitcom art form.

MASH and All in the Family and Cheers were also incredibly funny, but just not as consistent as MTM. The former two deviated too often into "social consciousness" for me.

The Wire is the best show ever. Arrested Development is my favorite show ever, even though I would probably have to say Cheers was better since it was very good for so long. Simpsons seasons 3-7 were amazing, but you can't ignore that there is, what, ten more seasons that range from inconsistent to bad.

3-way tie for first

Sopranos
Family Guy
Friday Night Lights

Easily The Simpsons.

What about Friends?

Or...The OC

No, but I can demand that you all concede Six Feet Under is the greatest show of all time. I'm working out a way to threaten the Movie/TV board as a collective. Individual blackmail can be exhausting on this scale.

Less cerebral then The Wire, perhaps, but I was emotionally inseparable from it through all five seasons. I felt like I had empathic connector cables running from my brain to those characters. It also managed to capture several different indescribable feelings and impulses I was experiencing while dealing with death and loss.

I realize that how you receive media is greatly impacted by the sort of shape your life has taken at the time.