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Pope Leo XIV - "No blessing of same-sex couples!"

Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:18 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70979 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:18 pm
The German church continues to be a thorn in the Vatican's side. I have no doubt Father James Martin is already pouting on social media.

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“The Holy See has already spoken to the German bishops. The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples, in this case, homosexual couples, as you asked, or couples in irregular situations, beyond what was specifically, if you will, allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings.

When a priest gives a blessing at the end of Mass, when the Pope gives a blessing at the end of a large celebration like the one we had today, they are blessings for all people. Francis’ well-known expression ‘Tutti, tutti, tutti’ is an expression of the Church’s belief that all are welcome; all are invited; all are invited to follow Jesus, and all are invited to look for conversion in their lives.

To go beyond that today, I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity, and that we should look for ways to build our unity upon Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ teaches. So that’s how I would respond to that question.”


Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21017 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:21 pm to
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To go beyond that today, I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity


Ahh... does this mean to slow down the "progress"? Saying "today" and framing it in a unity/disunity way seems odd as it should be an obvious, frank, biblical position to take.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110817 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:27 pm to
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To go beyond that today, I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity


Ahh... does this mean to slow down the "progress"? Saying "today" and framing it in a unity/disunity way seems odd as it should be an obvious, frank, biblical position to take.


Yeah, that's a weird way of saying "There's no way such a thing could ever be considered a sacramental possibility."
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5578 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Tutti, tutti, tutti’


Yep, a perfect example of the confusing gobblygook coming out of Papa Bergoglio's mouth. Dude was always vague, his comments open ended.

Hide sound orthodox doctrine behind terms like "Seamless Garment of Synodality" A term he borrowed from the Anglican Church.

How about a more accurate expression of his absurdity - Rubbish! Rubbish! Rubbish!

Saul of Tarsus warned us about this absurdity.....

The time will surely come, when men will grow tired of sound doctrine, always itching to hear something fresh; and so they will provide themselves with a continuous succession of new teachers, as the whim takes them, turning a deaf ear to the truth - 2 Timothy 4:3-4

This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138439 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:16 pm to
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Pope Leo XIV - "No blessing of same-sex couples!"
Well, well, well, I did not know that.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37767 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Pope Leo XIV - "No blessing of same-sex couples!"

I seriously cannot figure out if this guy is trying to come to Jesus or not. He says something woke as hell and then says something so based it would make the African Cardinals proud.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6252 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Ahh... does this mean to slow down the "progress"? Saying "today" and framing it in a unity/disunity way seems odd as it should be an obvious, frank, biblical position to take.


This means he’s catching a lot of shite from American priests telling Leo he’s killing donations and members are leaving the Church over his rooting for Iran. It’s not a coincidence he’s pivoted on several issues in last week.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16181 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:38 pm to
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does this mean to slow down the "progress"? Saying "today" and framing it in a unity/disunity way seems odd as it should be an obvious, frank, biblical position to take.


Yes, you have to stop and let the taste of vomit go away and then hope it doesn't cause the same reaction the next time.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46735 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:31 pm to
I think the title is misleading. He didn't say that homosexual couples can't receive blessing, but that he stands with the previous Pope about formal blessings.




Leo noted that the Vatican has already spoken to the German bishops to make clear its disagreement with the formalized blessing of same-sex couples "beyond what was specifically, if you will, allowed for by Pope Francis in saying that all people receive blessings."
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A 2023 document approved by Leo's predecessor made explicit that "couples in irregular situations and same-sex couples" may receive an informal blessing from a priest, but without a formalized type of ceremony comparable to sacramental marriage.

"To go beyond that today," Leo said during the presser, "I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity, and that we should look for ways to build our unity on Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ teaches."


National Catholic Reporter



He could have condemned homosexual couples as being outside of God's revealed will as expressed by His moral law, and yet he chose to basically take a political path by saying that he's cool with the prior Pope's messaging and that there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to issues he cares about.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25751 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:32 pm to
Such hate. lol
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
20973 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:36 pm to
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When a priest gives a blessing at the end of Mass, when the Pope gives a blessing at the end of a large celebration like the one we had today, they are blessings for all people. Francis’ well-known expression ‘Tutti, tutti, tutti’ is an expression of the Church’s belief that all are welcome; all are invited; all are invited to follow Jesus, and all are invited to look for conversion in their lives.

That’s not what James Martin wants to hear, lol. He wants special treatment for special LGBTQ+ people.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55040 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:22 pm to
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He could have condemned homosexual couples as being outside of God's revealed will as expressed by His moral law


The Roman Catholic Catechism already clearly says this.

The Pope assumes that his audience is able to do some simple research.

The Pope knows that certain parties will always try to twist his words and meaning in order to discredit him, he knows that he will never win over those who are committed to the notion of him being an evil Anti-Christ anti-Christian globalist, so, why should he even try?

I know many around here have been hoping that the Pope proclaims Gay Sex to be Godly Sex. It appears that you'll have to remain disappointed for the time being.


This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24829 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:34 pm to
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this.

The Pope assumes that his audience is able to do some simple research.

Why assume? Clarity and frequency on important issues is a must for a leader.



quote]The Pope knows that certain parties will always try to twist his words and meaning in order to discredit him, he knows that he will never win over those who are committed to the notion of him being an evil Anti-Christ anti-Christian globalist



Resistance must be accepted. There are some that need to hear the truth.


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why should he even try?


Miracles
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46735 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:38 pm to
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The Roman Catholic Catechism already clearly says this.

The Pope assumes that his audience is able to do some simple research.
He knows everyone who hears his words are going to do their own research? Why say anything about anything, then? Why not just say “go read the catechism”?

He is choosing to make comments, and yet he doesn’t provide the clear succinct teaching in the matters he is addressing.

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The Pope knows that certain parties will always try to twist his words and meaning in order to discredit him, he knows that he will never win over those who are committed to the notion of him being an evil Anti-Christ anti-Christian globalist, so, why should he even try?
I highly doubt he even has such thoughts when he is answering questions. He still gives interviews and makes comments, so I think you are wrongfully projecting your own thoughts onto him.

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I know many around here have been hoping that the Pope proclaims Gay Sex to be Godly Sex. It appears that you'll have to remain disappointed for the time being.
Contrary to what you think, I don’t actually want him to support evil. For his own sake, he should not be supporting evil. He will be judged for everything he does and says, as we all will be.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34118 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:53 pm to
This is what the Pope should have been doing all along, and stayed away from poking the Trump bear
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70979 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:52 pm to
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This is what the Pope should have been doing all along, and stayed away from poking the Trump bear



The pope is going to piss people off from all sides of the political spectrum. If he isn't then that means he's not doing his job.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11294 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:21 pm to
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To go beyond that today, I think that the topic can cause more disunity than unity, and that we should look for ways to build our unity upon Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ teaches. So that’s how I would respond to that question.


So, the pope is against blessing homo couples because it can cause "disunity," not because it goes against God's words?

I can't trust a Christian leader who cares more about pleasantries than the Gospel.
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1418 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:38 am to
Very good point. It’s all about donations, donations, donations.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16181 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:46 am to
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He could have condemned homosexual couples as being outside of God's revealed will as expressed by His moral law, and yet he chose to basically take a political path by saying that he's cool with the prior Pope's messaging and that there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to issues he cares about.


Wow
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16181 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:51 am to
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Resistance must be accepted. There are some that need to hear the truth.


Exactly
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