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Average fastball velos since 2008

Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:07 pm
Pretty funny chart, on two fronts.

First, the "why don't these guys just put the bat on the ball!" crowd ignores this stuff.

Second, the old timers vastly overstating their velocity
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:11 pm to
What year(s) did they transition to newer guns that picked the ball up right out of the hand?
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:13 pm to
Show that what Judge is doing is that much more impressive
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:15 pm to
Yeah, hard to compare timeframes and eras based on different technologies to measure.

quote:

What year(s) did they transition to newer guns that picked the ball up right out of the hand?


In the early 2000s, Stalker Radar Guns emerged
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

First, the "why don't these guys just put the bat on the ball!" crowd ignores this stuff.


They probably also ignore infield defense getting better and better… this is why they’re trying to lift the ball. Ground balls don’t win, if they ever did
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:19 pm to
And pitchers these days also do this lmao

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Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Second, the old timers vastly overstating their velocity

you mean like the people who think Nolan Ryan's fastball was actually 108 mph?
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

you mean like the people who think Nolan Ryan's fastball was actually 108 mph?

Exactly
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
9929 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

And pitchers these days also do this lmao

Really all you need to do is show an old timer any Mason Miller Padres outing and their jaw would hit the floor.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:30 pm to
There are multiple posters on this board who claim pitchers threw just as hard in the 60s, it’s just measured differently and embellished by MLB
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:31 pm to
Damn that's nasty
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:37 pm to
Literally doing so in this thread
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

What year(s) did they transition to newer guns that picked the ball up right out of the hand?



mid to early 90s when stalker came out but that wasnt the only ones used. and nothing was standardized until statcast era.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37744 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

In the early 2000s, Stalker Radar Guns emerged


stalked came out in 89 but ka band didnt come out until early 90s. which was the big jump in radar tech


edited to correct myself

speed gun was the original that tried to pick it up at home plate or within 10'. then jugs came out late 70s that measured like 10' from release, then stalker that measured at the hands

the new stalker guns give out the hand, at the plate(called roll down) and spin rate
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
339 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:21 pm to
I remember Joel Zumaya throwing 103-104 mph back in the mid-late 2000s.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

There are multiple posters on this board who claim pitchers threw just as hard in the 60s


If Aroldis Chapman through a heater in the 1960s, they would've re-segregated baseball.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:28 pm to
Pitching has gotten better for sure but Nolan Ryan's overlay is also absurd

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Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3244 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:32 pm to
it's pretty hard to believe the average major league fastball in 2008 was 91mph.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:37 pm to
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littleavery1948


Sorry, what did you say? I don’t understand dicksuck.
Posted by ThreeYYYz
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

If Aroldis Chapman through a heater in the 1960s, they would've re-segregated baseball.


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