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Hegseth about to fire a speechwriter.

Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:30 am
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
239 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:30 am
Forbes on Hegseth Prayer

Bad look from the folks who want to keep things biblically pure.

Unforced errors.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39330 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:34 am to
I’d wager that was 100% him and completely intentional because he thought it would be cool

Basically everything he does or says is a contrived attempt to look like a badass, but it almost always just makes him look like a frickin dork

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4478 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Basically everything he does or says is a contrived attempt to look like a badass
You sound jealous. Did you catch your wife/boyfriend diddling themselves to his picture? Or did he/she call you Pete in the throws of passion?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67847 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:36 am to
The combination of "we're bombing them to smithereens" with prayer is not the greatest thing in the first place.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 11:36 am
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10830 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:36 am to
Speechwriter? Y’all are clowns.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:37 am to
On second thought, I doubt a speechwriter had much to do with that.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 11:40 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39330 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:38 am to
For sure. Agreed.

But I’ve come to expect that from this group. Bastardizing faith to rationalize these behaviors is just par for the course.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37251 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:43 am to
From the Book of Jules 25: 1-15 while we are talking contrived and non existent Bible verses and prayers
Posted by dblwall
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:49 am to






Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 11:51 am to
quote:

I’d wager that was 100% him and completely intentional because he thought it would be cool


He was probably too drunk to notice.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1899 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:24 pm to
Like the pope he can be fallible in his choice of words.
Posted by Jef75
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jul 2009
127 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:31 pm to
Yikes. Y'all think CSAR 25:17 is in the bible? Combat Search And Rescue (CSAR)? He was sharing an anecdote from a soldier about a thing they say. Soldiers referencing pop culture? Madness!
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Yikes. Y'all think CSAR 25:17 is in the bible?

You mean it isn't? Next you'll try to tell me Hegseth didn't write it.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10292 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:38 pm to
As soon as he said it's from "CSAR 25:17" that was your clue that he's playing around and having some fun.

This is nothing to be outraged over and you need a better sense of humor as does anyone else getting worked up over it.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26167 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:41 pm to
If he stuck more to running the military and less to seeking an Influencer tag, we’d all be better off.

I’m all for using social media to further the mission, efficiency, and effectiveness of necessary government operations.

Not so much for our leaders to stop just short of ducklipping in selfies.

ETA: Apologists will rationalize this with claims of it being “in fun”, a troll to distract, or some other bullshite. I don’t want any of it. I want people to take these jobs seriously and not as platforms for their brand.

ETA2: And just like that, thread is anchored. This crap is getting old fast.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
11 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:13 pm to
Someone should tell the guy who started a thread worried that the pope was “altering scripture” — TD is so illiterate and gullible they don’t understand how quotation marks work, and yet eagerly ignore the confabulations and heresies of Trump and Hegseth.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3300 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Bad look from the folks who want to keep things biblically pure.

Unforced errors.


Don't listen to stupid MSM stories and their faux outrage and indignation... as if these people even care about what the Bible says. Listen to the relevant portion of your speech itself. It's just over a minute and a half.



In the first 50 or so seconds he explicitly explains:

1) that this prayer was handed to him by the lead mission planner of "Sandy 1" (part of the A10 group that supported the recent daylight rescue op). Whether or not Hegseth even used a speechwriter, the explicit explanation of the source of the prayer completely eliminates the possibility of either Hegseth or a speechwriter ignorantly trying to incorporate actual scripture out of Ezekiel by just taking the fictionalized Pulp Fiction version. So your thread title is a complete miss.

2) that the Sandies play an important and dangerous role. And he pays them a lot of respect.

3) that this specific variation of the prayer is recited by Sandy 1 for all Sandy / A10 missions.

From the 0:50 to the 1:00 mark, he chuckles that they call it CSAR 25:17 and says "which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25:17."

From my perspective, an amused acknowledgement of what Sandy 1 calls the prayer to a quick aside that "he thinks" it "reflects" Ezekiel (allowing for an appropriate and sincere amount of uncertainty of the inspiration for the name) is very efficient word economy. He does not claim authority or that this is verbatim. And if you understand that the Pulp Fiction version of the Eziekel verse, which is in part inspired by some 70s movie, also does contain some of the actual Ezekiel verse... it is reasonable to say to say CSAR 25:17 "reflects" Eziekel. It does.

The only people who would be offended are those looking to make something out of nothing. He was efficient. Because others believe and are spreading this stupid MSM narrative (whether you really believe it or are just lazily making this thread without thinking), it feels regrettably necessary for me to over-explain this.

The fact that Hegseth goes on to invite the audience to join him in reciting the verbatim prayer as a show of respect for the Sandy / CSAR units-- and the verbatim prayer includes obviously modern words like "aviator" and "call sign" that are not biblical-- makes it all the more appropriate for Hegseth to quickly point to the biblical inspiration of the prayer and not to the Pulp Fiction part.

The only unforced error is your thread. Think before you post.


Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22323 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65073 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:44 pm to
Yep. The homos on DU are dancing their pliant little buttholes off.

What a bimbo.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70685 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:46 pm to
An evangelical rewriting scripture????

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