Company makes AI covers of a girl's music, copyright strikes original singer

Name is Murphy Campbell btw.



And it’s going to be a headache but one thing she has going for her is it’s illegal in the U.S. to have a copyright on AI content.

It is being covered all over the place

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It is being covered all over the place

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That's a really good article, well-written with really important details.

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I watched her video.
She says that her videos are singing old folk songs and playing banjo.
The problem is that you can't claim a copyright on songs that you didn't write.
Old folk songs are public domain.
As far as the videos of her, I don't know how that works.

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Read this, it is worse than you think

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I've never thought it was a good idea.

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Because those music companies put a lot of pressure and debt onto the musicians they sign.

Musicians aren’t exactly the most business savvy people, especially when they’re young. So producers sign them and give them a chunk of change that they have to pay back, but they can use it to make more music using higher end studios. But because it’s financed by the production company, they often want a say in the music being made. So the creative part for the musician is constrained.

That’s why they jumped to social media but guess what? They’re just as parasitic as anyone else.

Now there’s AI.

Let’s be honest: the little guy will ALWAYS get fricked. That’s why Taylor Swift’s dad said screw that noise and purchased the record company.

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Read this, it is worse than you think

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There are several things going on here, but the root of this is more a problem with YouTube copyright enforcement than AI.

YouTube’s copyright enforcement process is pretty one-sided (in favor of the party claiming infringement). There’s a pretty strict “3 strike” system and content creators who appeal claims can wind up having their entire channel de-monetized if they lose appeals - even though it’s possible to lose an appeal without ever getting a chance to communicate with a real person.

Gamer’s Nexus did a video detailing their experience with YouTube copyright enforcement when they were in a fight with Bloomberg over fair use claims: YouTube link

There’s even a process by which someone claiming ownership of a copyright can leave a video up but simply take over the monetization of that video. This has led to a business model for so-called “copyright troll” companies who search for possible infringement on behalf of copyright owners.

It’s probably a tough spot for YouTube. I would guess that their perceived liability (under the platform’s T&C’s) to content creators for incorrectly striking a video is considerably less than their perceived liability (under the DMCA) to copyright owners for incorrectly leaving a video up.

I don’t think it’s entire clear how much role (if any) AI actually played in this specific YouTube takedown, based on the article you linked. As the article and others in this thread have pointed out, the songs themselves were public domain. Someone managed to file a claim for the actual performance, as if to say that the account uploading the videos (her account) didn’t actually own those specific videos.

It seems like the AI issue in this case is a separate problem - someone made AI copies of her YouTube videos and uploaded them to Spotify. That, in itself, is a systemic problem for the music industry right now. But I doubt the company filing the copyright claim had anything to do with that part. More likely that the same user who created the AI copies effectively tried to steal the performer’s musical identity and used the copyright enforcement company as a means to that end.

I would sue them, refuse any settlement offer less than $10M, and ask a jury to make an example of them, which they almost certainly would. Sucks that such a process would take at least a couple years, but such is war.

All I know is youtube's copyright claims should be shut down, it is abused too much.

I feel for the artist, but the world has changed.

We will very soon be in a world where it will be impossible to tell what is real and what is not and that's kinda terrifying. Imagine how countries and propagandists will use that capability...

In the past having "actual video" was the most obvious way to confirm something, but video now cannot be trusted either. So trust in society in general will degrade exponentially.