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Producers say beef prices are a bargain and cattle prices are not too high
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:47 am
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Consumption of America’s favorite red meat has grown in recent years while the cattle herd continues to shrink due to low prices, drought and instability in the market. Additionally, the border is closed to Mexican cattle due to the threat of New World Screwworm and President Trump implemented tariffs on Brazilian beef. This produced a “perfect storm” of strong beef and cattle prices simultaneously.
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President Trump has made clear his plan to lower beef prices. With the recent removal of reciprocal tariffs on South American food products, the plans to quadruple the amount of Argentinian beef allowable under the tariff quota, and the reversal of the Brazilian tariffs, the last six weeks have brought the largest and fastest downturn in feeder cattle futures this nation has ever seen.
On the flip side, consumers are filling their plates with more beef, and because the cattle market had shot up to record highs, cattle producers are still enjoying strong prices, albeit about 20 percent lower than six weeks ago. Beef prices, however, apparently didn’t get the memo. While boxed beef prices had made a minimal correction throughout the month of September, upon the President’s announcement to support additional imports, the price of beef did the opposite of what the President had seemingly hoped – increasing steadily throughout October and then leveling out.
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Examples of recent beef prices are as follows, bone-in ribeye is $12.96/lb, compared to $10.28 five years ago and $7.70 ten years ago.
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Stratford Angus owner Steve Stratford who is also cattle buyer at Pratt Livestock located near Pratt, Kansas, took to Facebook in August to address this topic. He said cow-calf producers were enjoying record highs, which he called “well-deserved,” and pointed out that the higher prices were crucial to the survival of independent cattle producers. “The prices…are needed with the way the inputs have been. They were all going to be broke if we didn’t get to these levels,” he said in a Facebook video.
“It’s common right now…in the media…trying to predict when this will change…that we are waiting for the consumer to balk, and say that ‘beef is too high,’ I guess I’m here to argue that…beef is still a bargain, we are at the price levels we should have been for a long time for what you get nutritionally and in comparison to the other things they are buying.”
“I think as cattlemen and anyone that represents cattlemen, we need to be out there screaming from the rooftops that beef isn’t too high, it’s where it should be, and it’s so much cheaper in comparison to the other junk that you buy and as far as the consumer we are selling it to…I’m going to tell you some of the things they purchase and you tell me which is the better bang for their buck,” he said.
Stratford said that “beef, eggs and milk,” are the best deal for consumers when considering the nutritional component.
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The good news: throughout 2025, cattle prices were higher than most had dreamed possible, and climbing. The bad news: backgrounders and farmer-feeders who bought in at the high now face catastrophic losses. Additionally, many ranchers say the record cattle prices weren’t out of line with the increased cost of machinery, nutrition supplements, veterinarian expenses, land prices and more.
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:50 am to ragincajun03
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On the flip side, consumers are filling their plates with more beef,
Maybe ground beef there’s no way steaks are up.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:52 am to ragincajun03
Did the cattle farmers and the crawfish farmers get together and have a meeting?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:57 am to ragincajun03
I have been eating a lot of chicken. Bring down the beef prices.


Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:10 am to ragincajun03
Beef producers raised prices when costs went up, then found out the American consumer hasn't really changed their buying habits as a result. So now that costs have trended down some, the beef producers just enjoy a greater profit margin because we're still buying their wares at the inflated prices. Lots of people bitching about it but until people actually change their buying habits (and more competition enters the market) prices are gonna be what they're gonna be sadly
Apply that first sentence to most retail or consumption products in America, the pattern has been mostly the same since 2020. It takes a ton of economic pain before any of us will actually change our lifestyle or habits. It doesn't help that's there's a baked in % of consumption that is govt funded courtesy of SNAP etc that will never go away, which will guarantee a floor to many grocery products consumption.
Apply that first sentence to most retail or consumption products in America, the pattern has been mostly the same since 2020. It takes a ton of economic pain before any of us will actually change our lifestyle or habits. It doesn't help that's there's a baked in % of consumption that is govt funded courtesy of SNAP etc that will never go away, which will guarantee a floor to many grocery products consumption.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:25 am to AUin02
Eliminating the ethanol mandate would greatly reduce ag prices. But it is a political third rail.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:47 am to AUin02
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Apply that first sentence to most retail or consumption products in America, the pattern has been mostly the same since 2020. It takes a ton of economic pain before any of us will actually change our lifestyle or habits. It doesn't help that's there's a baked in % of consumption that is govt funded courtesy of SNAP etc that will never go away, which will guarantee a floor to many grocery products consumption.
Which is why we need to drop interest rates and pass policies that promote small business.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:43 pm to SeaBass23
Ag prices are cheap as frick right now
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:48 pm to nes2010
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I have been eating a lot of chicken. Bring down the beef prices.
Pork chops and pork roast are also very inexpensive alternatives to beef, which I rarely eat now because of the high cost, other than ground meat.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:52 pm to LSUtoBOOT
I don't know where ya'll shop but chicken prices have gotten sky high and ground beef has gone through the roof. steaks, not as bad.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:57 pm to Jmcc64
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I don't know where ya'll shop but chicken prices have gotten sky high and ground beef has gone through the roof. steaks, not as bad.
Ground meat is about $4/lb, NY Strip is about 20/lb, not sure what else to say. By the way, we eat a lot of catfish at $6.75/lb vs $30/lb for red snapper, which we refuse to pay.

Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:57 pm to ragincajun03
They think we're all morons.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:01 pm to AUin02
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Beef producers raised prices when costs went up, then found out the American consumer hasn't really changed their buying habits as a result. So now that costs have trended down some, the beef producers just enjoy a greater profit margin because we're still buying their wares at the inflated prices. Lots of people bitching about it but until people actually change their buying habits (and more competition enters the market) prices are gonna be what they're gonna be sadly
All of this
I have noticed steak prices at restaurants havent gone up much if at all so they are still giving lower prices to wholesalers
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:03 pm to ragincajun03
Two things can be true at the same time.
Basic supply and demand. Prices of beef can be at record highs and farmer's can still be struggling to barely get by, meaning that this higher price is necessary for them to survive right now.
Due to a ridiculous amount of government induced over-regulation as well as drought factors over the last few years, livestock supply is absolutely down considerably. It doesn't help that the Biden Administration forced millions of cattle to be slaughtered and discarded due to bullshite covid policy that we all know was a hoax. Hell, some of office were calling bullshite in real time and we were right.
Same thing can be said about chickens. Turns out, when the Biden administration killed millions of chickens, egg prices will RISE. OMG! Who could have seen that coming?!
Here's a link for that. This is from the Guardian.
Basic supply and demand. Prices of beef can be at record highs and farmer's can still be struggling to barely get by, meaning that this higher price is necessary for them to survive right now.
Due to a ridiculous amount of government induced over-regulation as well as drought factors over the last few years, livestock supply is absolutely down considerably. It doesn't help that the Biden Administration forced millions of cattle to be slaughtered and discarded due to bullshite covid policy that we all know was a hoax. Hell, some of office were calling bullshite in real time and we were right.
Same thing can be said about chickens. Turns out, when the Biden administration killed millions of chickens, egg prices will RISE. OMG! Who could have seen that coming?!
Here's a link for that. This is from the Guardian.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:06 pm to AUin02
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the beef producers just enjoy a greater profit margin because we're still buying their wares at the inflated prices.
Speak for yourself. While we can easily afford it, I refuse to give in to what I consider overpriced consumables. My deer ground meat is an awesome replacement and is better for you.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:09 pm to LSUtoBOOT
quote:you mean $8-10/lb? You buying that shite in the balony tube or something?
Ground meat is about $4/lb,
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:14 pm to White Bear
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you mean $8-10/lb? You buying that shite in the balony tube or something?
Only 80/20 grade and the price is essentially the same on white styrofoam or plastic tube. It’s in the Houston area.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:21 pm to ragincajun03
The farmers are correct on the large increase in operational costs to raise beef.
I’m in sales for Ag equipment and we wholesale through local dealers who retail and provide parts and service to our customers.
Our prices, just since Covid, have increased 35%. It’s not just us but all ag manufacturers. What would typically have taken 15 years to increase to that rate, was done in 5. The tariffs were another 7% increase just late August.
Just like automobiles that people have been delaying to purchase due to high costs, they can’t just say “I’ll pass” because it’s too high. They have to make a living so they have to buy.
Fertilizer, Vet, equipment, land, have all skyrocketed.
Hay Balers are now $70k. Mowers are $35-40K. Rakes are 15k, Tedders are 18-25K. Even the bale wrap has tripled.
Tractors are outrageously high and parts and service at these dealerships are sky high. You need at least 100k tractor to run the equipment. Several of these as well.
Cattle guys are being forced to learn all the new technology that comes with this new equipment and hate it. You have to be an Astronaut to understand the new monitors and info provided. The young guys generally thrive on it though.
The avg age for cattlemen is 67. They are dying out and not being replaced at the rate they are leaving.
They have made some money the last 2 years but the 4 years prior was break even at best, so they’ve used most of these profits to pay down debt. It’s a cyclical business.
If the beef prices go down a good bit, they are in a boatload of trouble.
I’m in sales for Ag equipment and we wholesale through local dealers who retail and provide parts and service to our customers.
Our prices, just since Covid, have increased 35%. It’s not just us but all ag manufacturers. What would typically have taken 15 years to increase to that rate, was done in 5. The tariffs were another 7% increase just late August.
Just like automobiles that people have been delaying to purchase due to high costs, they can’t just say “I’ll pass” because it’s too high. They have to make a living so they have to buy.
Fertilizer, Vet, equipment, land, have all skyrocketed.
Hay Balers are now $70k. Mowers are $35-40K. Rakes are 15k, Tedders are 18-25K. Even the bale wrap has tripled.
Tractors are outrageously high and parts and service at these dealerships are sky high. You need at least 100k tractor to run the equipment. Several of these as well.
Cattle guys are being forced to learn all the new technology that comes with this new equipment and hate it. You have to be an Astronaut to understand the new monitors and info provided. The young guys generally thrive on it though.
The avg age for cattlemen is 67. They are dying out and not being replaced at the rate they are leaving.
They have made some money the last 2 years but the 4 years prior was break even at best, so they’ve used most of these profits to pay down debt. It’s a cyclical business.
If the beef prices go down a good bit, they are in a boatload of trouble.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:10 pm to nes2010
Not sure what y'all's experience has been lately, but seems overall quality of beef has been down for a while fallen. Multiple times my wife bought roasts, tenderloin, etc. and there was a significant amount of gristle embedded, even when it was labeled "Prime." Maybe we are shopping in the wrong places . . .
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:18 pm to LSUtoBOOT
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Ground meat is about $4/lb
You getting that 40/60 blend?
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