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France, Germany, UK, & Ukraine are working on a counter 28 point peace proposal to Trump’s

Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:10 pm




Globalist clowns

Guess they’ll have till the 27th to figure something out
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:11 pm to
So we want Europe to "take a more active role" in these things, but we are going to tease them when they do?

We should be praising and supporting this and find some sort of compromise between these various plans.

Posted by michael corleone
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:12 pm to
Then let them fund the “war” if their proposal is rejected.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:13 pm to
Sounds great.

USA.... out! Let them clean up their own mess.


Btw, where was this drive to make a peace plan BEFORE Trump proffered one?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:15 pm to
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So we want Europe to "take a more active role" in these things, but we are going to tease them when they do?

When they poke the Russian bear that threatens our assets in that region

America first all you want, we still have assets in the region that need protected
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:16 pm to
It’s just an excuse for all 4 to hang out and do blow
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
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So we want Europe to "take a more active role" in these things, but we are going to tease them when they do?


Where have they been all this time?

They show up to rebut efforts, not make original ones.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:18 pm to
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France, Germany, UK, & Ukraine are working on a counter 28 point peace proposal to Trump’s (proposal)
Well, if the US is going to enter the negotiations on behalf of Russia, it is only reasonable for Europe to do so on behalf of Ukraine.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:19 pm to
While the Russian Bear analogy it a cute one and was initially created as a fairy tale for little Russian kids, bless them, there was no actual animal being actually poked.

What poked the bear was annoyance that Ukraine was doing better and better while Russia was doing worse and worse.

Putin and oligarchs all said "Sh*t we can't have that, then our doctors will also want better wages, our citizens will also expect a decent pension! Ukraine must be taught a lesson!".

If it really was a bear then it sure is a sick one.
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:21 pm to
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So we want Europe to "take a more active role" in these things, but we are going to tease them when they do?


STFU nerd.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Btw, where was this drive to make a peace plan BEFORE Trump proffered one?


Interesting question, huh?
Posted by ItTakesAThief
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:23 pm to
There plan is that the ISA should got to war with and fund a war against Russia and then the USA should fund the rebuild of Ukraine.

Posted by SoWhat
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:23 pm to
Leave NATO, stat
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:24 pm to
If it is a sick bear, why can’t the rest of Europe defeat it on their own? They outnumber Russia, and have a stronger economy.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:24 pm to
If they want to decide the terms why is America involved at all? Trump can literally walk away now without fault
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:31 pm to
Good. Let the Europeans work out their European problems. Not only can they keep our input out of it, they can keep our money out of it. Then they can make a 28 point plan to explain how we get our money back.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:34 pm to
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If it really was a bear then it sure is a sick one.

How is Russia a sick bear?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Then they can make a 28 point plan to explain how we get our money back.


Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:35 pm to
Trump has an easy counter that literally trumps (eh...eh...) anything they come up with. It's called, "Okay I'm out, Vlad take the entire country."
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 1:36 pm to
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So we want Europe to "take a more active role" in these things, but we are going to tease them when they do?


They aren't serious people. No leadership amongst them.
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