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Is our population (and economy) supposed to grow every year, forever?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:15 am
How many people should live in Indiana? A billion?
is it realistic to want infinite growth?
is it realistic to want infinite growth?
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:17 am to weagle1999
Yeah, why not?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:18 am to weagle1999
Yes the world is under populated
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:19 am to weagle1999
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Is our population (and economy) supposed to grow every year, forever?
I have said this for years. It is not a long term realistic scenario.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:19 am to weagle1999
We have an economic system based on infinite growth and we live on a sphere. That is going to be a problem at some point.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:20 am to weagle1999
Illness, war, and famine controls.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:21 am to Padme
The problem is feeding everyone and having the power to run industrial civilization and American suburbia. Sure, you could fit everyone into Texas. But, our food supply is completely dependent on natural gas based fertilizers, oil based pesticides, not to mention the energy you need to run the equipment, transport food, irrigate, etc.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:22 am to weagle1999
quote:not our problem
is it realistic to want infinite growth?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:22 am to Bunk Moreland
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we live on a sphere.
Temporary limitation. The cosmos has a near infinite supply of other spheres to conquer.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:22 am to weagle1999
Growth is the capitalist way.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:29 am to jawnybnsc
Not enough resources. Easy.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:45 am to weagle1999
You realize people die, right?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:52 am to weagle1999
Yes, in a true capitalistic society that is exactly what it would do.
The way governments work today is they steal the people’s money until it all crashes down and results in a WW and that resets the economy of the world. We are very close to world war today.
We will attack Venezuela once the military is in place to launch the attack. This isn’t about drugs, I would guess Russia or China (possibly both) have nuclear weapons in Venezuela and we have to address that. This is trumps bay of pigs.
The deep state will always choose war over the possibility of losing control.
The way governments work today is they steal the people’s money until it all crashes down and results in a WW and that resets the economy of the world. We are very close to world war today.
We will attack Venezuela once the military is in place to launch the attack. This isn’t about drugs, I would guess Russia or China (possibly both) have nuclear weapons in Venezuela and we have to address that. This is trumps bay of pigs.
The deep state will always choose war over the possibility of losing control.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:53 am to weagle1999
I can not fathom the people who see declining birth rates as a bad thing and use it as justification for mass immigration. Too many people is our biggest problem.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:00 am to weagle1999
Do you work at a company? They expect to grow each year if they dont they die.
You want a raise each year correct? We'll in order for you to get a 4% bump each year your company needs to make 10%
Now windfalls are an outlier (covid ) jumped the cost of everything through the roof and obviously profits jumped at a higher rate the the cost. So if that yeareyou profits were 40% no that is not sustainable.
You want a raise each year correct? We'll in order for you to get a 4% bump each year your company needs to make 10%
Now windfalls are an outlier (covid ) jumped the cost of everything through the roof and obviously profits jumped at a higher rate the the cost. So if that yeareyou profits were 40% no that is not sustainable.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:03 am to weagle1999
No, but the business models of the ruling class require constant growth so they can keep borrowing on the future to pay for today.
So we need less thoughtful reproducers and more scatter-fricking Indians and Latins.
So we need less thoughtful reproducers and more scatter-fricking Indians and Latins.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:03 am to weagle1999
In some countries size, population and resources can be an issue. America doesn't have any of those problems. Our problems center around what we do with those advantages:
Size: Almost 1/3 of territory is off limits due to govt management.
Population: Low IQ welfare types produce way more kids than productive people.
Resources: Environmentalists make energy production more expensive than it should be.
America's periods of fast growth and prosperity came when govt had a much more limited role than it does now. "Wanta build a house in Calif? Just fill out 'Form 1' (out of 50 forms). We'll get back to you in a year and then you can start Form 2."
The result is few houses which equals higher prices.
Size: Almost 1/3 of territory is off limits due to govt management.
Population: Low IQ welfare types produce way more kids than productive people.
Resources: Environmentalists make energy production more expensive than it should be.
America's periods of fast growth and prosperity came when govt had a much more limited role than it does now. "Wanta build a house in Calif? Just fill out 'Form 1' (out of 50 forms). We'll get back to you in a year and then you can start Form 2."
The result is few houses which equals higher prices.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:12 am to Timeoday
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Illness, war, and famine controls.
Add in Fauci, Gates and their cohorts and it shouldn't ever be a problem.
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