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What does it say about our economy that it requires cheap (often illegal) labor to survive

Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1576 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:20 pm
Remove all the ‘cheap’ labor and what happens next?

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69416 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:23 pm to
I am guessing we are one of the top countries for earnings...point being what countries don't pay low wages for the "cheap labor" jobs?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141125 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:23 pm to
The same thing that happened last time when we took the democrats slaves away.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28202 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:25 pm to
Hope you're not serious. It doesn't need it one bit.
Posted by Viator106
Downtown Broussard, La.
Member since May 2020
516 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:29 pm to
It says we give too much to our kids without them have to earn it and now we've got a really lazy society
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39310 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:33 pm to
It means CEO pay got out of control at the expense of normal people
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51657 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:38 pm to
It’s not that it requires cheap labor, it’s that it requires more people because we aren’t producing them. Our population pyramid has failed. It is supposed to look like a pyramid. Instead it’s looking like an obelisk with a narrowing base. We don’t have nearly enough people in their 20s and 30s to do the jobs that need to be done and pay into social security and fund the government. I am always amazed at the immigration purists on here who just pretend we have a workable system if we stop letting in immigrants, not to mention kicking them out.

I am in favor of Trump’s drastic reduction of illegal immigration, but what we need now is a drastic increase in legal immigration, and we should be recruiting those immigrants from lands and peoples that roughly share our values (like Europeans, Christian Arabs, well educated Indians, Russians, etc.) But to pretend we can get by without this is a fantasy.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35508 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:39 pm to
This is how it has always been since the 1850s on
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:39 pm to
Remove minimum wage, eliminate 90% of entitlements over a 10 year period, remove the ACA, remove 90% of regulation and unsubsidize everything. There, I fixed the American economy. 70% of American will hate me, but that’s what has to be done.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
306 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:39 pm to
It says American Corporations have sold out the American worker for bigger margins.

They are doing it in conjunction with our representatives.

No right minded individual would agree to import millions of H1-B’s to compete against in the workplace. It reduces job prospects wage growth… and generally reduces quality of life.

If cheap labor were the key to success, why aren’t India and Mexico super powers?
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
1516 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

What does it say about our economy that it requires cheap (often illegal) labor to survive
says we’ve done a shitty job and need to get back on track.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36039 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Remove minimum wage, eliminate 90% of entitlements over a 10 year period, remove the ACA, remove 90% of regulation and unsubsidize everything. There, I fixed the American economy. 70% of American will hate me, but that’s what has to be done.


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21751 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

It’s not that it requires cheap labor, it’s that it requires more people because we aren’t producing them. Our population pyramid has failed. It is supposed to look like a pyramid. Instead it’s looking like an obelisk with a narrowing base. We don’t have nearly enough people in their 20s and 30s to do the jobs that need to be done and pay into social security and fund the government. I am always amazed at the immigration purists on here who just pretend we have a workable system if we stop letting in immigrants, not to mention kicking them out.

I am in favor of Trump’s drastic reduction of illegal immigration, but what we need now is a drastic increase in legal immigration, and we should be recruiting those immigrants from lands and peoples that roughly share our values (like Europeans, Christian Arabs, well educated Indians, Russians, etc.) But to pretend we can get by without this is a fantasy.

We parrot this without a lot of thought/discussion.

Why do we need a demographic pyramid? I'm asking in a practical sense - with technology advancing as it does, why can't we have a thriving economy with a population that levels off or even dips some?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:07 pm to
The American value system is completely broken, and probably never recovers.


It's just pure consumerism driven by only pleasure and spending money on our carnal, unending needs.

Nothing more.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33107 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:10 pm to
Ask Rome

And Egypt
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19291 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

The American value system is completely broken, and probably never recovers. It's just pure consumerism driven by only pleasure and spending money on our carnal, unending needs. Nothing more.


I agree with this. But it’s exacerbated by companies exploiting people’s urges to get them to consume more. So the companies can keep growing forever.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
870 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:16 pm to
Government needs to hook all the fatties up with free Ozempic so they quit costing us a fortune in healthcare and be fit enough to be productive members of society. We wouldn't have to worry about birth rate because less people will be dying from being fat.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
3221 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:05 pm to
It says you are a bitch.
Just go to your Starbucks and drink your goat milk latte that some slave picked the beans for. Liberals are so clueless to their own behaviors.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57700 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:01 pm to
That doesn't say nearly as much as the fact that if the federal government were to cut enough spending to only balance the budget it would send the country into a recession, possibly even a depression.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51657 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

with technology advancing as it does, why can't we have a thriving economy with a population that levels off or even dips some?

Maybe AI will deliver that, but that is a leap of faith at this point.
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