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In terms of Kelvin Sheppard
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:20 pm
I see a lot of folks saying “ he will be a great coach in the future but he’s not ready right now .” My rebuttal to this is timing is a thing in this business. If the folks in charge want Sheppard now may be the only time it can happen.
By all accounts , he’s destined to be a future head coach in the NFL if you decide not to get him this cycle theirs no Guarantee that window will be open again to pursue him.
I’m not saying he should be the top option, kififn and dilly are my top 2. However, the argument of “ we’ll get him in the future when he has more experience “ doesn’t apply to a guy like Sheppard who most likely will be a NFL head coach 2-3 years from now.
By all accounts , he’s destined to be a future head coach in the NFL if you decide not to get him this cycle theirs no Guarantee that window will be open again to pursue him.
I’m not saying he should be the top option, kififn and dilly are my top 2. However, the argument of “ we’ll get him in the future when he has more experience “ doesn’t apply to a guy like Sheppard who most likely will be a NFL head coach 2-3 years from now.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:23 pm to Cd104
The former players are definitely pushing for him
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:26 pm to Cd104
Put it this way. If didn't go to LSU, would you even be considering him?
If the only reason someone is an option is because they went here, it's not the right choice.
He may end up being great, but he has a total of a few weeks DC experience with no HC experience at all. This job is a lot and just because you can coach a defense doesn't mean you can run an entire big name program. Let him learn more before giving him the head job.
If the only reason someone is an option is because they went here, it's not the right choice.
He may end up being great, but he has a total of a few weeks DC experience with no HC experience at all. This job is a lot and just because you can coach a defense doesn't mean you can run an entire big name program. Let him learn more before giving him the head job.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:26 pm to Gnash
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The former players are definitely pushing for him
And tbh they make some very compelling arguments. The defensive side of the ball prob will be in good hands up Sheppard and you would think with his passion and energy plus LSU resources behind him he’ll kill it in recruiting.
The big question is who he would bring in to run the offense and how he Navigates the NIL landscape
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:28 pm to Cd104
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how he Navigates the NIL landscape
We have a GM for that.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:30 pm to Cd104
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The big question is
Can he be a great coach at the collegiate level and can he be a Head Coach?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:37 pm to Tigers0918
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Put it this way. If didn't go to LSU, would you even be considering him? If the only reason someone is an option is because they went here, it's not the right choice. He may end up being great, but he has a total of a few weeks DC experience with no HC experience at all. This job is a lot and just because you can coach a defense doesn't mean you can run an entire big name program. Let him learn more before giving him the head job.
My rebuttal to that is Brian Kelly was the ultimate safe hire in terms of being a proven winner at big programs and he failed here. Lately the young, hungry , up and comer assistants have had proven success. Lanning at Oregon
Kirby at Georgia
Freeman at ND
Dillingham at ASU
Granted all those guys had more coaching experience before their first head coaching jobs. However, Sheppard playing in the league for 7 is the reason his coaching career get set back. He’s a guy I think it’s worth to just interview and see what his vision is
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:39 pm to Cd104
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And tbh they make some very compelling arguments.
No they really do not
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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No they really do not
Where do you disagree in their assessment ?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:52 pm to Cd104
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Kirby at Georgia
8 seasons as a DC on a college Campus (plus 8 years in other coaching roles while climbing the ladder
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Freeman at ND
6 seasons as a DC on a college campus (plus 6 year in other coaching positions wile climbing the ladder)
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Dillingham at ASU
in his 3rd season as a head coach in college
plus 5 seasons as a college coordinator
plus 12 seasons working his way up the ladder in other roles
then there's Kelvin Sheppard
3 seasons as a position coach
8 games as a coordinator
0 seasons coaching in any capacity at the college level.
not saying Sheppard can't be a great college coach.
but those other guys you mentioned all had at least 12 years being involved with coaching College Football. Which is a completely different animal than coaching in the NFL.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:55 pm to Cd104
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My rebuttal to this is timing is a thing in this business. If the folks in charge want Sheppard now may be the only time it can happen.
Thats not a good rebuttal to not being ready. If hes actually not ready then it won't work out. I would argue Kiffin was not ready when he got the Head Coaching gigs that he got and he flamed out at multiple spots. He has not remade himself and has turned out to be a very good Coach right now.
Coach O might've been one of the absolute worst Head Coaches in Ole Miss history and when he got his next opportunity he won a Championship. Timing with Coaches is a real thing. If a Coach is not ready for everything that comes with being a Head Coach they can flame out and flame out quickly. There are multiple scenarios that prove this to be true.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:56 pm to Cd104
He isn't some can't miss coaching prospect. If he's not available next cycle oh well
Posted on 11/3/25 at 3:00 pm to Cd104
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Granted all those guys had more coaching experience before their first head coaching jobs. However, Sheppard playing in the league for 7 is the reason his coaching career get set back. He’s a guy I think it’s worth to just interview and see what his vision is
I love Shep, but he has been coaching for 5 years and never at the college level. Im not opposed to go the coordinator route, but would prefer one that's done it for a few years and in college where the turnover year to year is much greater.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:56 pm to IM_4_LSU
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If a Coach is not ready for everything that comes with being a Head Coach they can flame out and flame out quickly. There are multiple scenarios that prove this to be true.
Mike Archer here at LSU.
was not ready to be the Head guy and flamed out well enough that he was never even given another opportunity.
maybe if he paid is dues a little longer as a coordinator that may have ended differently for him somewhere.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:11 pm to Cd104
Maybe prove himself at a smaller school 1st.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:46 pm to Cd104
He would fit in good. I wouldn't minf
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:42 pm to Jest a game
He isn't taking the job
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:33 pm to Cd104
Not ready
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:34 pm to Gnash
Hm, I wonder why former players are wanting for him. Maybe bc he’s a former player too? You trust them to not have bias here lol? Of course they’re gonna say that.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:40 pm to Cd104
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Lately the young, hungry , up and comer assistants have had proven success. Lanning at Oregon Kirby at Georgia Freeman at ND Dillingham at ASU
This is a classic case of survivorship bias. No mention of Will Muschamp, Billy Napier, Tom Herman or even Lincoln Riley. There is no secret formula.
As for player recommendations didn’t they recommend Matt House as DC?
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