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Global Debt By Country
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:05 pm
World View
So how are we supposed to believe that the whole world is broke. frick it. Every country default, rollover and start over.
United States: $37 trillion as of mid-2025.
China: $15 trillion.
Japan: $10.9 trillion.
United Kingdom: $3.4 trillion.
France: $3.4 trillion.
So how are we supposed to believe that the whole world is broke. frick it. Every country default, rollover and start over.
United States: $37 trillion as of mid-2025.
China: $15 trillion.
Japan: $10.9 trillion.
United Kingdom: $3.4 trillion.
France: $3.4 trillion.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:22 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?

Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:27 pm to Timeoday
Each other...let's just say "we're square."
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:32 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?

This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:03 pm to Timeoday
Japan owes its citizens, China might be same. USA relied on external borrowers. There's a reason why gold has exploded in price.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:06 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?
Each other.
Put 100 people in a circle, give one guy $10, then start the process of the next guy borrowing that $10. By the time it gets around the circle, the total debt is $1000 despite there being only $10 that exists.
Now, that $10 can go back around and clear up all the debt, unless someone spends it on something. That's how we end up where we are.
Plus interest, of course.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:09 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?
Largely the people who buy treasury bonds or whatever the other nations equivalent to that is. Individuals, banks, hedge fund managers, investment groups.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:10 pm to reggierayreb
Nice. The Iron Bank indeed.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:12 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?
The people that purchased their bonds.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:12 pm to Potchafa
37-38 trillion is bad, but as a percent of GDP, we are still decent at 88.5%. Some countries are over 250% of GDP like Great Britan and France.
Think of GDP as the value of your house, and the national debt as your mortgage. Several nations debt exceed the value of their GDP so we are not alone in owing money at dangerous levels.
A cut in interest rates may slow the increase in debt as that will take less money to service the debt, but at some point the Federal Budget will need a huge infusion of tax revenue or cuts in spending to balance the budget.
With tarriffs redomesticating some industries that may help in tax revenues as money gets exchanged and trickles down to the government in the form of increased tax revenues.
Think of GDP as the value of your house, and the national debt as your mortgage. Several nations debt exceed the value of their GDP so we are not alone in owing money at dangerous levels.
A cut in interest rates may slow the increase in debt as that will take less money to service the debt, but at some point the Federal Budget will need a huge infusion of tax revenue or cuts in spending to balance the budget.
With tarriffs redomesticating some industries that may help in tax revenues as money gets exchanged and trickles down to the government in the form of increased tax revenues.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:16 pm to Timeoday
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?
About 30% of US debt (treasuries) is owned by foreigners.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:16 pm to Potchafa
If you click on % of GDP tab, you'll see the US isn't even in the top 10.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:17 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:Only 20-30% of the US number is held by foreigners.
USA relied on external borrowers.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:28 pm to Potchafa
For reference:
A million seconds is 11.5 days.
A billion seconds is 31.7 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,700 years.
A million seconds is 11.5 days.
A billion seconds is 31.7 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,700 years.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:51 pm to forkedintheroad
quote:
Exactly who do they owe?
Each other.
Put 100 people in a circle, give one guy $10, then start the process of the next guy borrowing that $10. By the time it gets around the circle, the total debt is $1000 despite there being only $10 that exists.
Now, that $10 can go back around and clear up all the debt, unless someone spends it on something. That's how we end up where we are.
Plus interest, of course.
The fiat currency Fed Reserve scam is way beyond who owes who, the heart of the scam lies in the debasement of the fiat currency. Inflation is the friend/savior of those who control the fiat currency scam.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:57 pm to Chaz95
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Each other...let's just say "we're square."
In the U.S., 75% of the debt is owned by Americans and American institutions. Only about a quarter is foreign owned. Defaulting could screw quite a few people out of their savings if they're invested in T-Bills and U.S. Bonds.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:57 pm to Potchafa
I looked at the list and the rest of the world added together, basically owes what we owe. Crazy
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:13 pm to Potchafa
Here you go
Breakdown of Debt Holders
Debt Held by the Public
Total: About 80% of the national debt
Domestic Investors:
Private investors (individuals, banks, mutual funds): Approximately $15.16 trillion
Federal Reserve: About $4.63 trillion
State and local governments: Around $7.36 trillion
Foreign Investors
Total: Approximately 20% of the national debt
Major Foreign Holders:
Japan: $1.1 trillion
China: $859 billion
United Kingdom: $668 billion
Luxembourg: $373.5 billion
Canada: $328.7 billion
Intragovernmental Holdings
Total: About 20% of the national debt
This includes debt the government owes to itself, such as funds held in trust for Social Security and other federal programs.
Breakdown of Debt Holders
Debt Held by the Public
Total: About 80% of the national debt
Domestic Investors:
Private investors (individuals, banks, mutual funds): Approximately $15.16 trillion
Federal Reserve: About $4.63 trillion
State and local governments: Around $7.36 trillion
Foreign Investors
Total: Approximately 20% of the national debt
Major Foreign Holders:
Japan: $1.1 trillion
China: $859 billion
United Kingdom: $668 billion
Luxembourg: $373.5 billion
Canada: $328.7 billion
Intragovernmental Holdings
Total: About 20% of the national debt
This includes debt the government owes to itself, such as funds held in trust for Social Security and other federal programs.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:33 pm to GumboPot
quote:
The people that purchased their bonds.
Which will be worthless
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