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BCS plot hole

Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:06 am
Posted by TechBullDawg
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:06 am
When Jimmy sabotaged Chuck on Mesa Verde, the most logical thing to do is check the computer files for the documents that were altered and see what the dates are, 1216 or 1261

Seems a huge deal
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:22 am to
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BCS plot hole



having to stay up until 2am to see if Hawaii would lose to Boise State so USC's SOS ranking would drop.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:31 am to
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having to stay up until 2am to see if Hawaii would lose to Boise State so USC's SOS ranking would drop.
Having to play a rematch for the Trophy against a team you already beat in the Game of the Century earlier in the year.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:36 am to
It was one after the magna carta! As if I could ever make such a mistake!
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:21 am to
You are not allowed to criticize BCS on this board. Don't you know it is better than BB? The biggest plot hole for me was the silly and unnecessary harassment of Howard Hamlin.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:33 am to
It doesn't matter that he could go back and show people on a pc that he did get the date right. Having it wrong on paper in that room at that moment caused a massive, expensive delay. He knew Jimmy changed it. Going back the next day with his computer file changes nothing. It doesn't prove Jimmy did it either. Only his taped confession could, and even that was illegally obtained.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:46 am to
J + K ? S
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:02 am to
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having to stay up until 2am to see if Hawaii would lose to Boise State so USC's SOS ranking would drop.


i was there!

..and here!

i'm not even sure what TD was called back then but i had no way to watch the game and nobody to share my consternation with so i found this place and refreshed like a fiend while the posters on here updated the score.

i was doing high kicks at 2am by myself
Posted by minimal
Member since Feb 2007
958 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:02 am to
context matters, but go on stretching out the plot hole concept so you can ease in your backdoor criticisms

it was well past time for the AP/Coaches poles to be neutered
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:14 am to
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When Jimmy sabotaged Chuck on Mesa Verde, the most logical thing to do is check the computer files for the documents that were altered and see what the dates are, 1216 or 1261

I'm confused. Wasn't the whole point that Jimmy did it manually by literally, physically "cutting and pasting" (gluing) the numbers onto the paper and making copies and all of that?

I may be misremembering, but he didn't simply open the file on the computer and change things, and him doing what he did (and how he did it) showed the lengths he was willing to go to pull off a con. See this gif:



This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1995 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:02 pm to
Yes and that's my point. Chuck should have looked at the computer files, if only to prove he didn't make a mistake in the address. Do that and show Hamlin there was sabotage.

I doing a rewatch and this is a sticking point.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:19 pm to
How was Chuck going to use the computer to show that?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:21 pm to
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You are not allowed to criticize BCS on this board. Don't you know it is better than BB? The biggest plot hole for me was the silly and unnecessary harassment of Howard Hamlin.



That’s not a plot hole.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1995 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:45 pm to
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How was Chuck going to use the computer to show that?


Seriously?

Jimmy altered the paper copy. The original files are still on the server. Probably backup files elsewhere too.

Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Seriously? Jimmy altered the paper copy. The original files are still on the server. Probably backup files elsewhere too.


Chuck was scared to death of electronics though. He wasn’t going to knowingly get close to anything emitting an EMF.

If he typed the documents Saul altered and didn’t dictate them to someone working on a computer it was most likely on the typewriter we see at his house. That’s why Saul’s plan worked because he knew there wasn’t a digital copy.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 1:17 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Chuck was scared to death of electronics though. He wasn’t going to knowingly get close to anything emitting an EMF.

If he typed the documents Saul altered and didn’t dictate them to someone working on a computer it was most likely on the typewriter we see at his house. That’s why Saul’s plan worked because he knew there wasn’t a digital copy.

All of this. But even moreso than that the papers still had the wrong address, so it wouldn't really prove anything other than them being correct initially. Jimmy wouldn't be attached to that. So all it would prove is that at one point in time they had the correct address. Not sure that would've been relevant at the hearing.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:26 pm to
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BCS plot hole

Letting the computers pick who the best 2 CFB teams seems like a big one.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56674 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:47 pm to
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You are not allowed to criticize BCS on this board. Don't you know it is better than BB? The biggest plot hole for me was the silly and unnecessary harassment of Howard Hamlin.


What the hell are you nerds arguing about?
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3568 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:01 pm to
He also defecated through a sunroof! What other chicanery was he capable of?
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:07 pm to
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He also defecated through a sunroof! What other chicanery was he capable of?


The old Chicago Sunroof.
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