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Schemes don't work.....people do
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:48 am
know your strengths and find the weak spot on D......it's really a simple game
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:52 am to pizzathehut
so 3 of you have NEVER broken down film......
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:04 am to pizzathehut
This is objectively false but don’t let that stop you
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:24 am to pizzathehut
Schemes absolutely work 
That's exactly why they are created- to make up for a deficiency at talent at some spot.
Back when everyone ran the I and other 2 back, 1 or 2 TE formation (and set the defense to defend that), teams with more talent won 99% of the time.
Then you see the spread put in place, by lesser teams. And they'd work those defenses over, and force a change in scheme. And then the better teams, having struggled against those schemes, would move to them to gain an advantage against other good teams.
But you have to know the scheme before you run it. LSU can't just come out and run the wishbone one game, or go Power I.
That's exactly why they are created- to make up for a deficiency at talent at some spot. Back when everyone ran the I and other 2 back, 1 or 2 TE formation (and set the defense to defend that), teams with more talent won 99% of the time.
Then you see the spread put in place, by lesser teams. And they'd work those defenses over, and force a change in scheme. And then the better teams, having struggled against those schemes, would move to them to gain an advantage against other good teams.
But you have to know the scheme before you run it. LSU can't just come out and run the wishbone one game, or go Power I.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:33 am to pizzathehut
2 weeks ago a scheme literally whooped our defense's arse.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:47 am to Tigerdew
Exactly. Scheme and better coaching led to us losing the Ole Miss game.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:18 pm to saltytiger2
my point is......you must have the right people for ANY scheme .....hunting and pecking and ramming a square peg in a round hole don't work
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:41 pm to pizzathehut
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Schemes don't work
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:45 pm to pizzathehut
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Schemes don't work.....people do
know your strengths and find the weak spot on D......
So, in other words find a scheme that works for your personnel?
What a ridiculous premise from the OP
I scheme didn’t work, Troy would NEVER beat an LSU, App State would never beat a Michigan, NIU would NEVER beat ND, Saban’s Bama teams never would have lost a single game.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:49 pm to pizzathehut
Funny how the only people who complain about downvotes are the ones with the shittiest takes
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:08 pm to pizzathehut
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Schemes don't work.....people do
Josh Heupel's scheme says hold my beer. He can make really average players thrive in that scheme. They may total garbage and not get developed for the NFL, but his scheme is ahead of most defenses right now.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:10 pm to pizzathehut
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my point is......you must have the right people for ANY scheme
No shite? you mean if I want to run the spread option, I shouldn't have an offense entirely made of linemen?
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:11 pm to pizzathehut
I get what you are saying, but they go hand in hand.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:53 pm to pizzathehut
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so 3 of you have NEVER broken down film......
I love when slap dicks say this! Most people that “break down film” don’t realize they have no idea what they’re looking at. You sir, are no different
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:58 pm to CleanSlate
quote:What’s great is that the 3 he was talking about were downvoters. He now has 48 and counting.
I love when slap dicks say this! Most people that “break down film” don’t realize they have no idea what they’re looking at. You sir, are no different
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:59 pm to pizzathehut
quote:You are literally making a case FOR a scheme. God this place is bizarre.
hunting and pecking and ramming a square peg in a round hole don't work
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:59 pm to pizzathehut
Players play.
Schemes hide deficiencies or emphasize strengths.
Schemes don't work? Ask every team that lost to Navy throughout their cutblock era if schemes work.
Schemes hide deficiencies or emphasize strengths.
Schemes don't work? Ask every team that lost to Navy throughout their cutblock era if schemes work.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:09 pm to Scoob
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That's exactly why they are created- to make up for a deficiency at talent at some spot.
Not necessarily. They are also created to take advantage of deficiencies on the other team. And sometimes they are created simply to take advantage of concepts (like the spread) or technicalities in the rules (like the hurry-up) that hadn't been contemplated before. That's why so many schemes appear dominant for a short while, then seem to fade as other minds in the sport adjust to the new concept. Sometimes it reveals a fundamental oversight in conventional wisdom and elements of it remain permanently (some aspects of various iterations of the spread will most likely be with us forever). Other times the scheme as a whole will seem to fade away as teams adjust to neutralize it, only to come back many years later when other trends leave teams vulnerable to it again, usually incorporating some newer concepts to modernize the old scheme (variants of the wishbone/triple option have seen this cycle multiple times).
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And then the better teams, having struggled against those schemes, would move to them to gain an advantage against other good teams.
Yeah, basically, that. And then the cycle starts all over again.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:17 pm to pizzathehut
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Schemes don't work.....people do
When you have both...undefeated NC year.
Burrow + RPO add the slot fade back shoulder route...
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:27 pm to pizzathehut
if your scheme sucks, so will your people.
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