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Ukraine drones cost 20k per and cost millions to bring down
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:30 pm
I think this is pretty neat. They talk about shooting em with bullets now, we’re going back in time unless they can make more cost effective anti air missiles. We need to take notes before our taxes go up
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:35 pm to fareplay
Do you have the cost analysis results for the Russian drones handy?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:36 pm to fareplay
Warfare of the future is going to be about low-cost saturation of the battlespace. We’re missing the boat and the chenques are floating red herrings to keep our focus elsewhere.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:38 pm to Kcrad
No but can’t be that much different. Issue is Ukraine has less to lose and they can deal more damage per dollar
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:55 pm to fareplay
I saw a report the other day where the drones they were making were only costing $1K a piece, but they weren't the AI drones they have been using. Their goal is produce and release 1,000 of those $1K drones per day.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:58 pm to BigD45
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I saw a report the other day where the drones they were making were only costing $1K a piece, but they weren't the AI drones they have been using. Their goal is produce and release 1,000 of those $1K drones per day.
Probably a dumb question but don't those drones show up on radar? Do jamming technology or circuit board frying of some sort not work?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:03 pm to idlewatcher
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circuit board frying
Enlighten the crew here, how do you fry a circuit board flying through the air?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:06 pm to rs_la
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We’re missing the boat
How do you know this? We were using drones and drones that could fire missiles 20 years ago.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:26 pm to forkedintheroad
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Enlighten the crew here, how do you fry a circuit board flying through the air?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:35 pm to forkedintheroad
Focused microwaves. We have that tech.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:08 pm to fareplay
$20K per drone? I have read several articles that said that Ukranian anti-personnel drones can cost as low as $2k-3K. The $20K must be for anti-Armour drones.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:35 pm to idlewatcher
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Probably a dumb question but don't those drones show up on radar? Do jamming technology or circuit board frying of some sort not work?
They've gotten around the jamming by hard-wiring them to the controller.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:12 pm to IAmNERD
They run on a fiberoptic chord. Pretty crazy stuff.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:25 pm to forkedintheroad
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Enlighten the crew here, how do you fry a circuit board flying through the air?
Localized mini emps, shot out of a shotgun like device maybe? I dunno, I'm a dumb accountant, but goodness knows excel doesn't even open up correctly every time so it makes me think all tech is vulnerable to something.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:30 pm to rs_la
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Warfare of the future is going to be about low-cost saturation of the battlespace.
It’s going to be AI drones and robots fighting AI drones and robots with all kinds of cyber and satellite warfare mixed in.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:33 pm to notiger1997
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How do you know this? We were using drones and drones that could fire missiles 20 years ago.
True. But those platforms were high-dollar, best-of-breed, low production rate platforms that cost a lot and we could never churn them out en bulk.
What we are seeing effective now is low cost, low tech, manufactured by the gobs, stuff that focuses on “too many to shoot down.”
Saturation.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:47 pm to rs_la
And you don’t think we are investing in that?
We spend more on drone r&d than most countries spend on their entire military.
We spend more on drone r&d than most countries spend on their entire military.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:01 pm to tide06
quote:What's the point of war then without the human cost? First one to get sick of churning out robot soldiers throws in the towel?
It’s going to be AI drones and robots fighting AI drones and robots with all kinds of cyber and satellite warfare mixed in.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:09 pm to red sox fan 13
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What's the point of war then without the human cost? First one to get sick of churning out robot soldiers throws in the towel?
It is going to force the civilian population and infrastructure into the frontlines. You may see a period where it is all tech/digital warfare, but some combatant country is going to break out of that pattern and bring the human loss factor back into play. Since the only human targets readily available, and relatively undefended, would be civilians......that is where they will strike.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:16 pm to rs_la
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What we are seeing effective now is low cost, low tech, manufactured by the gobs, stuff that focuses on “too many to shoot down.”
Saturation.
There are AOs in the world that saturation can work (for a while) but it would be very difficult to emply on US mainland soil.
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