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Hiking/Backpacking recommendations

Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13306 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:12 pm
The OB has never let me down, so I'm again asking for recommendations.

Short version: I need a small, lightweight backpacking tent, and possibly a pack as well. It will be used a few times a year for 1-2 nights of camping, but may also see more use than that. I don't really need a 4 season tent for this. At this age, the hikes will be relatively short, maybe a few miles into the woods and find a spot to set up camp for the night. Not in a state park with established sites to set up a tent on. I don't really want to strap a 5 man tent on my back and haul it through the woods, so just something light that gives good shelter from the elements.

Long version: My two boys and I joined a scouting troop a little over a year ago. They are split up into 5 different age groups, meaning 5-6, 7-8, and 9-10 year olds are in those three groups for meetings and campouts or other activities. And then there are two older groups, I think from 11-13, and 14 and up. We do 4 big camping trips with the entire group each year. Typically fall and spring for actual camping, and winter/summer for other overnight trips. Just as an example, this last year, we did a big fall campout in October and again in April. In January we spent the night in a local kids museum (McWane Center for other Birmingham folks) and in August took them to the Tennessee Aquarium in Chattanooga. So I already have a decent 5-man tent for those trips that involve actual camping.

Now that my oldest has moved up to the first of the two older boys groups, there are more campouts and trips that happen where we leave the younger ones behind so the older ones get some experience with more adventurous things that a kid age 5-10 either wouldn't appreciate or couldn't keep up. The first one of those is coming up soon. I think it is being called a backcountry campout, or a primitive campout. Either way, we are all meeting at a trailhead and hiking into the woods, see some waterfalls, etc. So it won't be our normal car camping where we go to a state park and are camping within 100 feet of our vehicles. There's another one coming up next March as well. I think that one is either caves or rappelling. Same situation, there will be a smaller group, maybe 10-12 boys and their dads, so we won't take a ton of gear on that one either.

As a bonus, my boys are 5 years apart, so right about the time my oldest would be aging out of this type of trip, my youngest will be right there behind him, so I don't mind spending a little more to get something that will last a good long time, knowing I'll get a ton of use out of it.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73089 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:30 pm to
I personally use a hiking pole tent since its so small. But then it's really small. For backpacking i want to be as light as possible and be able to easily carry my pack for miles.



Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46173 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11177 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 6:06 pm to
KUIU Mountain Star is hard to beat. Plenty of room and extremely light. Regularly on sale for 50% off
Posted by Grebe
Member since Jan 2015
349 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 6:37 pm to
Sierra Designs makes affordable, high quality tents. Not unreasonably heavy but not ultralight either. LINK

Posted by Grifola
Member since Aug 2017
224 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:33 pm to
Any of the ones already mentioned plus add Durston X-Mid (the one on the left, trekking pole supported to save weight).



REI Half Dome below, but much heavier than the Durston. I have a bit of problem collecting backpacking gear.

Posted by Grifola
Member since Aug 2017
224 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:53 pm to
Forgot to mention a backpack and not sure of your budget.

My son ended up getting his Eagle, he used Seek Outside Unaweep for Philmont (and many other trips). It's bombproof, comfortable with a load, and very light for a load bearing pack. This bag should hold up fine to get passed down to the younger son.

I use a Stone Glacier but will likely also get a Seek Outside to shave some weight and simplify. I'm getting where I don't want/need a bunch of external pockets and straps.

Also look at Osprey and Gregory.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:55 pm to
I have a Kuiu mountain star 2 p and have had a few different durston tents. The durston x mids in whatever size fits your needs are nearly impossible to beat for the price, space, and weight. If you don’t want a trekking pole shelter the Kuiu mountain star half off is tough to beat for the price/weight/rigidity as a freestanding tent.

If you will already have trekking poles, you are really 3 season camping, and you know you will have a nice flat spot to pitch something like the durston, there’s no doubt that’s what I’d go with.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6664 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:36 pm to
Big Agnes 3 man tent

Weighs 3lbs

Kuiu anything can't go wrong. I have two of their packs and use them for meat, gear, strapping deer stand to. Solid and comfortable to me even at 60 lbs
Posted by EsquireReb
Member since Jan 2014
130 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:14 pm to
KUIU makes a good tent. Nemo is good but some models have issues. I like the Slingfin Portal but pricewise I'd go KUIU, it goes on sale a lot and in a package with a footprint pretty often.
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1448 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:05 am to
certified gear whore and scout leader here.

One thing to consider is that as they get older they will (or at least should) be doing these things without you. And kids are hard on gear. Especially when they gather in groups. so while ultralight gear is awesome, you've also got to take durability into account along with cost and find the right balance for you. When my oldest heads off on his own next year he won't be taking my slingfin. He can maybe take my x-mid.

Some good recommendations on this thread already so I'll offer an alternative. If you want high durability at a somewhat reasonable weight, track down an MSR thunder ridge. MSR makes them for Philmont Scout Ranch to Philmont's specs and they hold up to years of abuse. They typically sell some used at the end of the season for super cheap as well. Certainly not the lightest offering but reasonable and bombproof.

I'm going to switch gears to your sleeping gear. If you don't already have one of the current generations of nice, 2.5"+ thick backpacking pads you need to get one. I like nemo but there are other good ones as well. as a general rule- price goes up, weight and durability come down.

Posted by kaleidoscoping
Member since Feb 2021
431 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:14 am to
I also have a Kuiu mountain star tent, I like my sierra designs tent a lot, too. depending on your budget the Kuiu pro lite 4000 is a really comfortable and lightweight backpack.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13079 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:04 pm to
Don't rule out hammocks before buying a tent. I have a warbonnet, but used a Hennessy for years.

If you do decide on a tent make sure you get one with plenty of ventilation. I like the MSR Hubba Hubba, but it is pricey.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29645 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:18 pm to
IMO, i can't stand the small "2 person" half dome tents. You're cramped inside with just one person and your gear, and you get so much condensation inside you're bound to get wet eventually when you bump into the side.

I would suggest a tipi tent.
Slumberjack makes a 4 person (really 2 person) one that you can just about stand up in, and it's pretty lightweight.

Very simple to put up, unlike those dome tents that are a pain in the arse to put up.

Just to show you a comparison.
REI dome tent - 4.8lbs , 31.8 sqft floor area, 40" height, fits 1 person and gear. Packed size 22"x7"x7". $330

Slumberjack Tipi Tent - 4.8lbs, 168 sqft floor area, 78" height, fits 2 people and gear easily, could likely fit 1 adult and 2 children. Packed size 22"x7"x7". $150

It's literally the same packed size, 5x bigger when set up, and half the cost. and you can make it lighter if you normally using trekking poles and use that as your center pole.

Being able to stand up and get dressed is so much nicer.


You can find cheaper and bigger tipi tents on alibaba or whatever chinese amazon sites there are.
Posted by Grebe
Member since Jan 2015
349 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:26 pm to
There are so many pack options that it is hard to make a recommendation. I can list a few opinions that may be relevant for you:

- I greatly prefer a pack with an adjustable torso. Fit is important and small-medium-large sizing just doesn't cut it for me.
- I could care less how much a pack weighs so long as it is comfortable and appropriate for my gear. Save weight elsewhere.
- I like a pack that has one of those shove-it type pockets on the back that you can stuff things in.
- People are fascinated by packs with hip belt pockets. Whatever; they are fine but certainly not essential. And a detriment if you are packing a hogleg.
- I don't think you need to spend a lot of money. Basic options from Osprey, Gregory, or even Kelty should all be fine provided that they fit.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9439 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:58 pm to
Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL 2 weighs in at 2 lb-8 oz … plus another 1.2 lbs for the fly …. So 4 lbs all -in …. very durable, and bombproof in most wet weather conditions. This tent also comes in a “tall” length … which comes in handy if you’re a big ole baw.

I use several packs , usually depends on trip length. I’ve long had luck with the Osprey Atmos 65 ….. very comfortable, spacious, and customizable torso fit. I also use the Osprey Stratos 34 quite a bit when I want to go lighter.

If you don’t mind gently used gear, try REIs used gear listings for a good deal
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted by KI5NKM
Member since Jul 2021
195 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 7:16 am to
Free standing: BA copper spur

Trekking pole: Durston x mid. IF I had the money I’d have gotten a Zpacks ultaplex and I still might after my Xmid needs replacing.

Pack is tough not knowing your base weight.

Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13306 posts
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:35 am to
Thanks everyone. I see a lot that appeals to what we need. I really like the idea of the trek pole supported options. Didn't realize people were still making those these days.

Weight isn't a huge issue, its not like we're hiking the Appalachian Trail. Almost anything would be fine for 2-4 miles. I've got a nice rolltop waterproof backpack that I carried around probably 15 lbs in with lots of walking around the DC area back in the spring. I've also got a really lightweight and compact air mattress, and I'll probably add another one just like it. I could get two of those and a small tent bag inside it just fine. My son's backpack for school has places to clip things to the outside, so he could carry the sleeping bags. We've got a couple of mummy ones that will fit in a compression bag.

Looks like the main things I'll need will be a trek pole tent and a couple sets of poles and we'll be good for this first trip at the first of the year.
Posted by HotBoudin
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
1096 posts
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:18 pm to
hikerdirect.com
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8018 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Slumberjack Tipi Tent - 4.8lbs, 168 sqft floor area, 78" height, fits 2 people and gear easily, could likely fit 1 adult and 2 children. Packed size 22"x7"x7". $150

this might be a stupid question, but how do you keep the water from coming in around the bottom if it rains?
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