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Rattler actual has outplayed my expectations
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:15 am
I’m not saying he is the long term answer, but I feel like I’ve seen some good things. He has some really nice throws in him, but has zero time and little help from wr.
I know he has missed some and gets a little antsy, but so far I’ve been fine with his play.
Going into the season I thought it was a mistake to see Shough sit the bench on this team, knowing we weren’t making the playoffs either way…..but with this oline I think Rattler has to be they guy, otherwise Shough’s career would be over before it starts.
I know he has missed some and gets a little antsy, but so far I’ve been fine with his play.
Going into the season I thought it was a mistake to see Shough sit the bench on this team, knowing we weren’t making the playoffs either way…..but with this oline I think Rattler has to be they guy, otherwise Shough’s career would be over before it starts.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:24 am to Safety Blitz
I disagree. Rattler's lack of accuracy is a glaring issue. Just yesterday, if he was accurate he would have had a TD to Kamara on the first 4th down play and he would have had a TD to Olave on the slant in the end zone. There have been a lot of throws like that this year. Hell, the Kamara fumble that changed the 49er game was because the ball was behind him and he had to pin it to his helmet. Also, the quarterback has to bear some of the responsibility for all of the pre snap penalties. The offense really struggles to get into a rhythm. I get that Rattler had no expectations coming into the season but it is a pretty hopeless situation with him as the QB1.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:26 am to Safety Blitz
The expectations are so low for rattler that people think he’s playing better than he really is. Moore is not asking him to do anything really overwhelming and he’s still struggling. The ball to Kamara yesterday can’t be missed just as an example. Those kind of misses are deflating and don’t allow any kind of momentum or rhythm.
He’s a fine backup or emergency QB, but he’s certainly not the future of this franchise.
He’s a fine backup or emergency QB, but he’s certainly not the future of this franchise.
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 8:29 am
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:33 am to Safety Blitz
He’s been so much more dink and dunk and safe than I expected. We have very little downfield action.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:51 am to Safety Blitz
He’s not the problem…but he’s far from the solution.
I think his accuracy is a big problem. He has thrown behind guys several times and it has cost us points. He doesn’t have to be prime Brees, but he’s got to become more consistent.
I think his accuracy is a big problem. He has thrown behind guys several times and it has cost us points. He doesn’t have to be prime Brees, but he’s got to become more consistent.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:53 am to Safety Blitz
The best thing I can say about him is he’s proven to be capable of being a back up and giving you spot starts. He’s the type of backup that can come in and not cost you the game. He’s better than Ian Book, so that’s a plus.
As others have mentioned, his accuracy is a big glaring problem. It’s not just the throws that he has missed - and there has been some big ones as mentioned. It’s that Moore really can’t run the full playbook with a quarterback that can’t throw accurately downfield. It’s like we are running an offense around Rattler’s limitations, particularly accuracy.
You know what you have in rattler now. And honestly, for a fifth round pick, he’s proven to be a pretty good value. He appears to be a competent back up who can do some spot starts and keep you competitive. Maybe somewhere way down the road he turns into a Geno Smith type, but for now, he has what he is. Shough Is going to start relatively soon, because you have to see what you have in him going into the draft.
As others have mentioned, his accuracy is a big glaring problem. It’s not just the throws that he has missed - and there has been some big ones as mentioned. It’s that Moore really can’t run the full playbook with a quarterback that can’t throw accurately downfield. It’s like we are running an offense around Rattler’s limitations, particularly accuracy.
You know what you have in rattler now. And honestly, for a fifth round pick, he’s proven to be a pretty good value. He appears to be a competent back up who can do some spot starts and keep you competitive. Maybe somewhere way down the road he turns into a Geno Smith type, but for now, he has what he is. Shough Is going to start relatively soon, because you have to see what you have in him going into the draft.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:54 am to Suntiger
People are blinded by the fact that he doesn't look lost. He is calm out there, gets them in and out of the huddle efficiently, doesn't look totally lost on most plays, moves well in the pocket, etc
People expect calamity with a young QB and he's not that.
He's just not good either
People expect calamity with a young QB and he's not that.
He's just not good either
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:03 am to Fun Bunch
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People expect calamity with a young QB and he's not that.
Right, but that is still better than expectations.
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He's just not good either
Yep, he has the arm talent, but he does not throw well. Meaning he could make the throws needed, but he is constantly late on his throws, so they are underthrown or behind the receivers.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:07 am to Safety Blitz
Rattler is composed and is good about not turning the ball over. He's not going to win you games but he's also not going to be out there throwing picks all over the field losing you games.
I don't see him ever being "the guy" but he's shown the ability to keep things afloat while "the guy" is out for a few plays/games.
IMO Rattler is going to have one of the best careers in life, long term NFL backup QB.
I don't see him ever being "the guy" but he's shown the ability to keep things afloat while "the guy" is out for a few plays/games.
IMO Rattler is going to have one of the best careers in life, long term NFL backup QB.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:08 am to Safety Blitz
Rattler's ceiling is a serviceable QB. He won't win you any games but he may stop you from losing some.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:09 am to ThePistol
I go back to the 49ers game. He missed a guy wide open in the end zone at the start of the game. He was missing receivers that were running essentially wide open. Maybe you just don’t see it on TV but live in action it’s pretty glaring to me that this guy‘s not any good.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:16 am to Safety Blitz
He can’t sustain a fricking drive, unless it’s aided by penalty….
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:20 am to Fun Bunch
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gets them in and out of the huddle efficiently
Is this a Rattler trait, or a symptom of Moore's offense?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:35 am to Safety Blitz
I wish I could agree. He was throwing behind the receiver on a ton of the crossers and slants I saw. That big miss when Kamara was wide open for a huge gain. He is a poor man's Aaron Brooks. Shows flashes but no consistency or accuracy, especially when it counts the most.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:43 am to Safety Blitz
He has been exactly as I expected. He is a high floor, low ceiling player. He won't be the reason you lose but he is not going to take over and win either.
He's a solid backup.
He's a solid backup.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:52 am to Safety Blitz
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Rattler actual has outplayed my expectations

Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:18 am to ThePistol
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Just yesterday, if he was accurate he would have had a TD to Kamara on the first 4th down play and he would have had a TD to Olave on the slant in the end zone
For the record I thought Rattler won QB1 and deserved to start the season.
Rattler has played slightly better than I thought, but not good enough to win with this team.
In the second half of the 49ers game in week 2 I said unless he delivers a stud performance to come back & win then we should start Shough week 3.
Now through 3 full games this season I definitely say switch to Shough for week 4. Even though I felt Rattler played good enough to beat ARI & SF, he simply was not good enough this year, with this roster.
--Kamara misjudged the ball, stopped running & started back-pedaling hitting just his fingertips. If he continues stride the ball would have been on his chest
--Olave missed that pass before the defender even touched him, it literally bounced off of his hands when they showed the replay
--Both of those balls could have been more accurate, but players have to make plays.
Now there have been several throws through the 3 games where his accuracy was the absolute cause of the incompletion, as well as some catches that should have been thrown better. This is where I reiterate he has not played good enough & Moore needs to hand it over to Shough, but those 2 examples are more of an indictment on the pass catchers than the passer.
I have not watched any All-22 film or reviews, so I don't know how many reads he's missed that were not his first read. But the passing game has seemed to be called for short to intermediate almost completely, and if that is Moore shielding Rattler from turnovers or mistakes and choosing to hamstring our offense, then Rattler should not be QB1 and should not have been from the start. Even though from watching live televised preseason games I thought Rattler had earned it.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:26 am to Safety Blitz
He's 0-9 in career starts. I think he's 2nd all time in that .
Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
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People are blinded by the fact that he doesn't look lost. He is calm out there, gets them in and out of the huddle efficiently, doesn't look totally lost on most plays, moves well in the pocket, etc
People expect calamity with a young QB and he's not that.
He's just not good either
I don’t disagree with any of this. He will likely be a low level starter, higher end backup in his career. Basically a Jacoby Brissett or Ryan Tannehill type.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 10:51 am to Doug_H
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--Kamara misjudged the ball, stopped running & started back-pedaling hitting just his fingertips. If he continues stride the ball would have been on his chest
--Olave missed that pass before the defender even touched him, it literally bounced off of his hands when they showed the replay
--Both of those balls could have been more accurate, but players have to make plays.
We will agree to disagree. The ball to Kamara turned him around and was poorly thrown. There was no defender near him. The ball to Olave was behind him allowing the defender to be involved and get a hand in. That should have been an easy TD. His accuracy is a huge issue.
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