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Would You Send Your Children To Fight To Defend Germany?

Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:06 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50876 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:06 pm
We need to seriously begin asking “Why?”

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The cold-blooded killing of campaigner Charlie Kirk on a university campus in Utah should have been a moment of shared grief for everyone. A young father who believed in and lived by a code of free speech and debate was gunned down in front of horrified students.

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Yet here in Germany, the response of the media class was even more disturbing. They seemed to revel in it. Instead of uniting in condemnation, major outlets reached immediately for the smear.

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Der Tagesspiegel, Berlin’s leading newspaper, ran the headline “Death of an Arsonist”, portraying Kirk not as a victim of murder but as some kind of extremist who has had it coming.

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State broadcaster ZDF allowed its chief correspondent, Elmar Thewessen, to claim – falsely – that Kirk had called for “stoning homosexuals”. And then came the digital chorus of mockery: T-Online’s Lars Wienand quipped, “Part of Liberty? Maybe this shocking murder will make the US Right rethink its gun laws”.

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Felix Schulz, spokesman for the Left-wing die Linke party’s leader, tossed out a meme reading, “Oh no! Anyway”. The comedian Sebastian Hotz (“El Hotzo”), a darling of public service satire, posted a famous TV chimpanzee named “Charly” with the caption “Rest in Peace”.

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Even when the country’s most decorated presenters attempted solemnity, the mask slipped. On ZDF heute journal, the fortress of Germany’s mainstream media, presenter Dunja Hayali began: “Kirk’s murder cannot be justified by anything”. A decent start. But then, in the same breath, she reminded viewers that Kirk was guilty of “abhorrent, racist, sexist and misanthropic statements”, branding him a “radical-religious conspiracy adherent”.

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This seems to be the journalistic trick: pose as balanced, then twist the knife. The result? Millions of ordinary Germans, who take prime-time anchors at their word, are invited to conclude that while murder is technically bad, this particular victim was barely human in the first place.

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The reality is different. Kirk, whatever one thought of his politics, was a debater. He engaged hostile audiences. He welcomed disagreement. He thrived on argument, often in unfriendly rooms. That, in a democracy, should be valued. Yet Germany’s commentariat class chose not to acknowledge this but to vilify him, as if to suggest that the killing of a conservative voice was not a tragedy at all.

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This is a sign of how far the political mainstream in Germany has drifted Leftwards. It is no longer enough to oppose your adversaries. They must be delegitimised, dehumanised, treated not as mistaken citizens but as moral outcasts. Conservatives are no longer simply wrong; they are wicked, even “fascists”. And if they are wicked, then what happens to them is of little consequence. A society that cannot even pause to mourn the death of a man who dedicated himself to free speech has lost its moral bearings.

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Germany’s establishment congratulates itself on “defending democracy” by excluding the AfD. In reality, it is laying the groundwork for that party’s advance. The famous Brandmauer, an informal agreement by mainstream parties not to work with or form coaltions with the AfD, is collapsing. Not because of some master strategy by AfD leaders, but because Germany’s mainstream has abandoned the basic values that once bound society together.

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Charlie Kirk died for his belief that words, not bullets, should settle political disputes. Germany’s media elite could not even bring themselves to honour that conviction. Instead, they applauded the silencing of a man who did nothing more dangerous than challenge his opponents. If this is the moral standard of the German mainstream, then its democratic future is far darker than its leaders dare to admit.

The Telegraph
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:07 pm to
no.

My family paid a high enough toll, due to Germany.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73997 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:10 pm to
Klaus?
Of course.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:10 pm to
No.

I have mentioned it before, but our allies are as bad as our enemies. We really need to reexamine our alignment on a global stage.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:11 pm to
You just don’t understand - they are European and both smarter and more culturally refined.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9924 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:11 pm to
If German media class thinks Charlie Kirk was extreme...theyd have to invent new words to describe me
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
913 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:17 pm to
"Just give up your guns, we won't hurt you", the left.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9924 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:17 pm to
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You just don’t understand - they are European and both smarter and more culturally refined.


So quick story I once matched on Tinder with a gen Z German girl while traveling there. Spent and entire weekend with her. She was very right wing...though definitely not outspoken about it. She had funny terms...they called it "ooigie begie" or something to describe themselves and she called herself a "German Potato" The youth there may be trending hard right wing...but due to terrible birth rates, there just arent many German youths relative to previous generations
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106966 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:17 pm to
Makes sense with all of the AfD candidates being killed off.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30306 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:17 pm to
Not fighting to defend a bunch of Nazis and Commnists.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106966 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:20 pm to
Congrats on banging a fat German girl.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9470 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:40 pm to
The United States freed Europe in World War II only for it to turn into a far left socialist nightmare.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9924 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:44 pm to
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Congrats on banging a fat German girl.


Not even close
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9925 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:45 pm to
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We really need to reexamine our alignment on a global stage.


Any idea how Russia had handled the news of a Christian being assassinated by gay man?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141413 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:47 pm to
I had to live in Germany for 3 years while my father defended Germany. (at that time, mostly from themselves)

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62959 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:49 pm to
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they are European and both smarter and more culturally refined.
Not for fricking long.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:02 pm to
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Any idea how Russia had handled the news of a Christian being assassinated by gay man?


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Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3726 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:02 pm to
Germany just assassinated 7 members of the AfD. So not shocked this is their stance.
Posted by kayjay
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
411 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:12 pm to
I don’t understand the question in your title. We don’t send our children to fight anywhere.

We have a voluntary military. They sign up with free will at the age of consent, swear allegiance to God and country and are dispatched to where ever command sends them to fulfill and honor their oath.

Under what circumstances would a parent send their adult child to fight anywhere and by what power does a parent have over an adult child to do so. I’m confused with your question.
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