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A couple of questions about Arkansas decisions.

Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:57 am
I posted these on the SEC Rant too for their perceptive too, but I also wonder what tRant thinks.

1. Do you think Aloy was instructed by the coaches to take the easier out at 3rd rather than attempt a more difficult 6-4-3 double play to win the game?

2. Why not walk Jones and get to Josh Pearson? I posed this question to my son during the game. I said , "they are going to pitch to Jones. I can't believe it. I guess DVH thinks he as a better shot at striking out Jones than he does Pearson."
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22596 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:00 am to
My uninformed guesses

1) no I don't think taking the out at 3rd was a coaching decision

2) assume they wanted to pitch around Jones and see if they could get him to chase and the pitcher didn't execute and Jones made him pay.
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
1619 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:01 am to
Watch Ark post game press conference. DVH addresses both.
Posted by Thebuzz
Member since Sep 2021
113 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:02 am to
The only situations where you don’t walk Jones is if the next batter is named Ohtani or Judge. If nothing else, it takes pressure off your infielders.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
976 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:02 am to
I think Aloy became momentarily disoriented about the situation. If you look, it seems that as soon as he turns towards third to make the throw he realizes what he's done, but at that point he is pot stuck. People would be surprised how often players forget number of outs, which bases are occupied. Batters forget the count. Pitchers forget the count. Umpires forget the count. It happens.

Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2560 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:02 am to
In his presser DVH said the SS must have felt he was pulled too far to his right to make the play at 2nd. Wasn’t a coaching issue.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22229 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

1. Do you think Aloy was instructed by the coaches to take the easier out at 3rd rather than attempt a more difficult 6-4-3 double play to win the game?


I doubt it.

quote:

2. Why not walk Jones and get to Josh Pearson? I posed this question to my son during the game. I said , "they are going to pitch to Jones. I can't believe it. I guess DVH thinks he as a better shot at striking out Jones than he does Pearson."


I didn't understand this either. Plus if you put Jones on you also have a force out at second on any ball hit to the middle infield.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7159 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:04 am to
Well WTF did he say sir?
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41388 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:06 am to
God was with us
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:07 am to
1. No

2. Looked like they were just throwing Jones pitches off the plate. He reached out and got it Kelly Leak style
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4371 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Watch Ark post game press conference. DVH addresses both.


Don't care to watch an Arkansas presser. How just drop some cliffs of what he said.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56452 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:07 am to
DVH answered both of these in his post game presser

1. No, not at all. said he hadnt had a chance to talk to Aloy about it yet but you could tell tht didnt come from him
2. he said he liked the right on right matchup but hindsight is 20/20
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12122 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:07 am to
quote:

1. Do you think Aloy was instructed by the coaches to take the easier out at 3rd rather than attempt a more difficult 6-4-3 double play to win the game?

No. Probably typical auto-pilot in the moment.
In hindsight, with one out... you go for the double play and potentially concede the runner going to 3rd as he is not even the tying run.
Normally, you do want to grab the lead runner on that play.

quote:

2. Why not walk Jones and get to Josh Pearson?
Jones struck out 5 times on saturday, and twice earlier in the game. The 2nd baseman was about 3 inches away from ending it.
In hindsight, you don't let Jones hit because he's going to win it. But Arky doesn't have a crystal ball.

Arkansas had to make 5 mistakes in the bottom of the 9th to lose it.
1. 1st baseman going for the Curiel ball instead of letting 2nd take it.
2. Walk to Frey.
3. Error on LF.
4. Pitch to Jones.
5. 2nd base not snagging the Jones hit.

Sometimes the baseball gods giveth and taketh away.
1. LSU double delayed steal out.
2. Jones error on 1st that allowed 2 runs in top 8.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11563 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:08 am to
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Well WTF did he say sir?

He heard all Jay's propaganda that Pearson is the most clutch hitter ever and believed it so he pitched to Jones instead
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75818 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:09 am to
I didn’t understand bringing in Jimenez when he was shite against us twice this year and threw 48 pitches the day before.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:10 am to
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He heard all Jay's propaganda that Pearson is the most clutch hitter ever and believed it so he pitched to Jones instead
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7159 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:17 am to
Let’s not forget the 6th mistake.

Not throwing out Milam on an easy double play if being aggressive which they should have been at that point.

*Personally I think the 3rd baseman “overestimated” Milam’s speed and was kinda lackadaisical looking down tagging 3rd and looked up and realized he should have made the throw to first.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26306 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:18 am to
1) No. DVH even said so in his press conference. He said he thought the momentum of going to his right must have made him think his only play was at 3rd. He seemed dumbfounded and did the best he could not to roll over the kid

2)I don't understand this one. Arkansas had owned Jones until the second half of the game. You would think they would have pitched to Pearson, but they had walked Pearson earlier in the game for some reason.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56452 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:19 am to
project any clue where Parker Coil was? did he miss the fight to Omaha?

I'm walking Bear right there and bringing in the LHP vs Pearson
Posted by NeauxDice
CenLA
Member since Dec 2019
146 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:21 am to
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I didn’t understand bringing in Jimenez when he was shite against us twice this year and threw 48 pitches the day before


I also was surprised by this
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