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Why do we not get more Revolutionary War movies or miniseries?

Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:49 pm
I’m reading Rick Atkinson’s “The British Are Coming” and I’m only through the battles of Lexington and Concord. But man there is so much drama and intrigue just in that single day of fighting. It’s so good.

Paul Revere and William Dawes riding to warn Sam Adams and John Hancock, the militia assembling in the thousands from the countryside, the British burning and shooting up houses, General Percy saving them and the British retreat back to Boston.

Why the hell do we not have more stories shown on film or miniseries?


Bunker Hill
Grabbing the cannons from Fort Ticonderoga
Crossing of the Delaware
Valley Forge
Trenton

Hollywood is so stupid. Follow the blueprint of The Patriot, but a big name actor and a good secondary actor in it, get a good writer and it’s gold.

But no, they force Ironheart down our throat
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:23 pm to
Patriotism and nationalism are frowned upon.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59919 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:25 pm to
Hollywood hates the side that won
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:32 pm to
I don't know about today, but for the old days the accepted wisdom was reluctance to offend tUK & the Commonwealth (today's equivalent: China & Wokesters)

Add to this, most RW films that did get made (Allegheny Uprising, The Howards Of Virginia, Revolution w/Pacino) are generally awful.

I know of one great RW film, John Ford's Drums Along The Mohawk - and even that is more about fighting Indians.

OK/Not bad RW films:

1776
The Devil's Disciple
The Scarlet Coat (about Benedict Arnold - also the subject of a '90s TV movie)
Alexander Hamilton (1931 - IMHO notable mostly for its surprisingly unflattering depiction of Thomas Jefferson)
Valley Forge (1975 TV play)
April Morning (1980s TV movie about Lex/Con for young people - but in the '60s John Ford had wanted to film the same book, w/Olivier and John Wayne!)

DW Griffith made a silent called America that I haven't seen

Also there are a number of very unhistorical episodes of the '60s Daniel Boone series that are entertaining on a boys adventure level

Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:32 pm to
Have you watched Turn?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:49 pm to
Woodrow Wilson threw one director in jail for making a revolutionary war movie as it was anti british.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:54 pm to
I mean, being perfectly honest, it just wasn’t a very cinematic war. More people died in prison barges than on the battlefield.

You could do something interesting with Bunker Hill or Saratoga. But overall the American revolution was a lot of very complicated micro scenarios playing out all over the place
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:11 am to
quote:

being perfectly honest, it just wasn’t a very cinematic war
"Viewed purely as drama, the war is somewhat disappointing." - DW Griffith, 1917

There are a lot of interesting stories to tell:

Benedict Arnold would make a great miniseries - throw in the fact that his wife was hot and was very, er, friendly

Gore Vidal's novel Burr would make a great miniseries

John Paul Jones

I forgot to mention Disney's Swamp Fox miniseries earlier

That Dragoon a-hole in SC

Writing the Dec of Ind, but nobody sings
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
19411 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:39 am to
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I mean, being perfectly honest, it just wasn’t a very cinematic war. More people died in prison barges than on the battlefield.


I wholeheartedly disagree with that. You had the underdog scenario obviously. Militiamen, that fought like Indians against overwhelming odds with the British Regulars. The British didn’t know how to respond on their retreat back to Boston. The militia kept hiding behind trees and walls taking potshots, it infuriated them that they wouldn’t line up and fight like Europeans.

It was the first revolution of a colony that ever threw off the yoke of its “owner” in the history of mankind.

Farmers, tanners, ferrymen, ironworkers, woodsmen, preachers, farriers, all came together and beat the most powerful empire in the history of the world.

There are thousands of stories to tell. The highest percentage of Americans died in that rebellion than any war America has ever seen. Granted the population was small but still. It was divine providence that we won. There’s a million interesting, riveting stories to tell involving espionage and courage against overwhelming odds.

When the minutemen beat back the regulars at Concord they were absolutely shocked that they’d won and had retreating Regulars in front of them running away, they were amazed. They didn’t know what to do.

There’s a Band of Brothers, Pacific. Masters of the Air type miniseries just begging to be told from 1775-1783

I know about Turn, but they could go so much bigger and deeper than that
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:42 am
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
5657 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:08 am to
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I’m reading Rick Atkinson’s “The British Are Coming
I read that book last year. I always thought those early skirmishes were many men, but in reality there were just a few. From what I remember, they would work on the farm one day and be shooting at the Brits the next.

It was interesting reading some of the casualty reports from those battles about who was wounded and killed and how. Crazy they took the time to record that.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
151069 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:40 am to
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they would work on the farm one day and be shooting at the Brits the next
Which is why the British called the filthy lot "cowboys"
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
36601 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:50 am to
The Founders did the something incredible - stood up to THE colonial power - and won.

People need to be made to not remember that.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 2:53 am
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8175 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:08 am to
I read George Washington’s bio a couple years ago and all I could think about was how epic they could make his crossing of the Delaware if they did it right
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68392 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:06 am to
It's already been done. About 25 years ago Jeff Daniels starred in a film about Washington and his army crossing the Delaware River. Incidentally enough, the movie was called The Crossing.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8175 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:19 am to
Yeah and it sucks. Jeff Daniels playing Washington is as questionable a casting as it gets lol
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:44 am to
quote:

Why do we not get more Revolutionary War movies or miniseries?


Honest answer? Patriotism and nationalism are now viewed as bad things, especially by most of Hollywood.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
31262 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:10 am to
funny timing, Ken Burns was on Rogan yesterday promoting his new 10-hour doc on the Revolutionary War that comes out in Nov.

He's been working on it for 10 years.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 7:13 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53435 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:18 am to
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I read that book last year. I always thought those early skirmishes were many men, but in reality there were just a few. From what I remember, they would work on the farm one day and be shooting at the Brits the next.


In the southern theater, there was a ton of issues keeping the militia together because they all needed to get home to tend to their crops.

Most of the engagements in the Revolution were small scale. Most would also be surprised how many didn't involve actual British but were instead Loyalist vs Patriot Americans.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 7:21 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10553 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:27 am to

quote:

The story covers events from 1776 to 1781 and features a farmer from Setauket, New York, and his childhood friends. They form an unlikely group of spies called the Culper Ring, which eventually helps to turn the tide during the American Revolutionary War.[3] The series begins in October 1776, shortly after British victories, recapturing of Long Island and the Port of New York for the Crown, leaving General George Washington's army in dire straits. The first episode opens with the following introductory text:

Autumn 1776. Insurgents have declared war against the Crown. Following a successful naval landing, His Majesty's Army has forced Washington's rebels into the wilderness. New York City serves as military base of operations for the British. The Loyalists of nearby Long Island keep vigilant watch out for sympathizers and spies.


Simcoe makes me want to go back in time to stab him in the eye.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22455 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:30 am to
Or Patriots vs Hessians
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