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Is Tyler Shough Derangement Syndrome becoming a thing?

Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:08 am
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
8213 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:08 am
He’s 26 years old! He’ll never amount to anything!

Didn’t this guy have some injuries and miss playing time during his college career?!

Why did he play at 3 schools? Is he just looking for paydays?!

How come he didn’t have more production and touchdowns in his college career?!

Weren’t other quarterbacks available who were better?!

Why doesn’t he have all the great “personality” and “cultural fit” of Jameis Winston?!


Meanwhile, he has every physical trait that you want in an NFL QB and is showing a willingness to buy in and go all in on NOLA and Louisiana. Let’s give the kid a chance before writing him off.

This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 7:09 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11940 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:20 am to
Except availability and accuracy
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5944 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:24 am to
Playing at three schools, unfortunately, is all too common these days.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:29 am to
Reason is difficult for this board.

There’s a lot of crybaby Karen types here.

The Saints finally invested heavily in QB, and it wasn’t Shedeur, and this board is still crying like a bunch of pussies
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68983 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:37 am to
I don’t think he is going to be good but I’m 110 percent pulling for him to be our franchise guy. Just because I didn’t like the pick doesn’t mean I’d rather be right than us actually have a great qb.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
11993 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:43 am to
I hope the guy is fantastic. I hope he makes Loomis look like a genius.

Will it happen? Probably not. They'll probably win 4-5 games this year and be back picking Top 5.
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1531 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:50 am to
Yes because he is a tall strapping young lad who has not been arrested. Most in New Orleans can’t relate too not being arrested!!!
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18210 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:59 am to
We should be hailing him as our franchise savior, not because he is already good but because it got us off of Derek Carr.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
14023 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Is Tyler Shough Derangement Syndrome becoming a thing?


A lot of Saints fans are addicted to complaining and being miserable.

Almost worse than white liberal women.

Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29372 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:03 am to
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Is Tyler Shough Derangement Syndrome becoming a thing?


It always blows my mind the amount of Saints "fans" hoping for this guy to fail just so they can be right.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
660 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:08 am to
Part of it is he played at Louisville, a non-program program according to people here. Remember, this is first and foremost an LSU board. So, according to most of the people here, you draft starters out of the SEC. You may be able to get a backup or 2 out of the Big Ten, but every other conference is to fill rosters for Canada or the UFL.

Part of it is that the Saints could trade a 7th round pick for Pat Mahomes and then sign him to a league minimum deal and people here would call it a bad move and overpaying because they will hate everything the team does.

Part of it is the cuts of the handful of bad plays he has had, plus that stupid clip from the combine. They can't get off of those even though all these young QBs have moments like that in college cause that's what happens sometimes to young QBs. Underhill puts those plays in his compilation of the player and then suggests that these plays define who he is and it goes from there. You just ignore the 90% of the rest of the time.

And part of it is that some people here just don't understand football, so they just go along with groupthink.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451969 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:15 am to
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It always blows my mind the amount of Saints "fans" hoping for this guy to fail just so they can be right.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451969 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Part of it is he played at Louisville, a non-program program according to people here. Remember, this is first and foremost an LSU board. So, according to most of the people here, you draft starters out of the SEC. You may be able to get a backup or 2 out of the Big Ten, but every other conference is to fill rosters for Canada or the UFL.

Part of it is that the Saints could trade a 7th round pick for Pat Mahomes and then sign him to a league minimum deal and people here would call it a bad move and overpaying because they will hate everything the team does.

Part of it is the cuts of the handful of bad plays he has had, plus that stupid clip from the combine. They can't get off of those even though all these young QBs have moments like that in college cause that's what happens sometimes to young QBs. Underhill puts those plays in his compilation of the player and then suggests that these plays define who he is and it goes from there. You just ignore the 90% of the rest of the time.

And part of it is that some people here just don't understand football, so they just go along with groupthink.


Part of it is he's the 3rd oldest QB drafted in NFL history and no QB drafted at his age has ever become even a serviceable backup.

Part of it is he was not even really that good in college and had one OK/mid year (out of 7) at a lower level of competition (comparable stats to the starter prior to him who I don't think was drafted at a normal age).

Part of it is a 5-6 year history of constant injuries.

All of these things add up to a very, very low % chance of success. It's higher than 0, obviously, but we used a top-40 pick on longshot due to 3 things (which you should neve use to burn a draft pick): (1) his physical tools (2) thinking we are in "win now" mode and must have a QB (3) thinking he's the most advanced and "ready" QB due to being so old and playing 1 year in a more pro-style offense.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12046 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:20 am to
I don’t mind Shough as a prospect in the 4th round where he shoukd have gone. I do mind burning a top 40 pick when their was premium talent still on the board. And I didn’t want anything to do with Sanders.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19185 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:25 am to
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thinking we are in "win now" mode and must have a QB

Have to disagree with this one. I don’t think many franchises are using pick 40 for a “win now” approach. More likely they know this is a buffer year, and it’s worth the investment to get someone some experience so we can win soon. If it was a win now pick, I’d have expected it at 9, or jump back into the 1st to make sure you get him
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19185 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:26 am to
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Why doesn’t he have all the great “personality” and “cultural fit” of Jameis Winston?!

Has this one actually been said about Shough yet?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451969 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:29 am to
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I don’t think many franchises are using pick 40 for a “win now” approach.

We just drafted a QB who will be 26 when the season starts

quote:

More likely they know this is a buffer year, and it’s worth the investment to get someone some experience so we can win soon.

When he's knocking on 30?

quote:

If it was a win now pick, I’d have expected it at 9, or jump back into the 1st to make sure you get him

This is wrong. Dart is a project that has to be rebuilt due to the offense he played in, in college.

Shough was over-drafted b/c he's more "NFL ready" by being so old and having 1 year in a "pro style" offense that made him more mentally advanced in 2024-2025. Hence, "win now".

There is no logical sense in sitting Shough for 1-3 years to develop so that he finally starts at 29-30.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 8:30 am
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
487 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:29 am to
He has accurracy. Big issue is throws under pressure, which is very like a former Raiders/Saints QB. I hope he can change that
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7561 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:30 am to
I am right there with St Aug. I didn’t like the QBs enough in this draft to want any of them available at pick 40, but now I hope he’s ROY and future HOF. And at least personality wise, he seems easy to pull for.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7199 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:33 am to
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Except availability


This seems kinda unfair.. It's not like he's constantly out with soft tissue injuries like muscle pulls, etc.

He broke his collar bone. Team doctor told him there was no reason to put in a plate and that it would heal fine. Following year he gets tackled in a weird way and breaks it again, so this time they're smart enough to plate it.

Then he gets high-low tackled and they snap his leg..

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