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Holy Week PT Thoughts: I wish our founding fathers knew scripture better...
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:18 pm
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams
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A Republic, if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin
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Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. - John Adams
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Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. - Samuel Adams
I try to quiet my mind during Holy Week... taking extra time for solitude and meditation.
It seems like the founding fathers understood the human complex, but delivered an ultimately inadequate solution.... I kinda get it.... who in the 1700's would (could?) anticipate outward corruption and collective unwillingness to confront it? Who would have thought activists could premise that men have babies and a large portion of the people would either defend it or shrug it off as not important to deal with.
Scripture clearly says that it is a few who will "get it" (the wide and narrow gates, right?) but "few" gets out-voted pretty easily.
Oh well....
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 1:22 pm
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:23 pm to Meauxjeaux
We just have to keep voting Republican and encourage all of our family/friends to do the same. The evil demonic left will take our guns and prosecute the churches if they ever get back in to power.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:27 pm to Meauxjeaux
Each one of those quotes has incredible wisdom.
Foreshadowing an unknown future currently being relentlessly tested.
Foreshadowing an unknown future currently being relentlessly tested.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:34 pm to ShinerHorns
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We just have to keep voting Republican and encourage all of our family/friends to do the same.
This only works if people are just as diligent with primaries. the republican party is corrupt but it has been coopted by a nationalist coalition at this point. It is imperative that primaries keep this coalition alive or it will just return to the uniparty.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:38 pm to Meauxjeaux
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I try to quiet my mind during Holy Week... taking extra time for solitude and meditation.
Do us a favor and take extra time off from posting. thanks
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:39 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams
These dudes knew.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:00 pm to Meauxjeaux
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o in the 1700's would (could?) anticipate outward corruption and collective unwillingness to confront it?
Are you being sarcastic? Bc that was the default for ruling bodies for pretty much most of human civilization. They did their best. We failed them.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:01 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. - John Adams
But MAGA revenge tour is owning the libs what's wrong with that?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:07 pm to Meauxjeaux
I think Franklin had it right - you cannot construct a set of laws that will survive a population with no moral or religious values.
I think his statement was an admonition for the public to never forsake the matter of personal integrity and morality.
I think his statement was an admonition for the public to never forsake the matter of personal integrity and morality.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:09 pm to Meauxjeaux
The founding fathers were men of the enlightenment. They thought people would be rational. No one can predict that 238 years later that insanity would be celebrated.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:23 pm to Meauxjeaux
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but delivered an ultimately inadequate solution
Actually, no they didn't. They delivered a masterpiece. One of your quotes puts teeth to that:
A Republic, if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin
Much like GOD's Word, The Holy Bible, it contains everything we need for Life. However, both have something very similiar in the context of Man.
Free Will.
That can be a two edged sword. Much like The Bible, the farther people have gone away from The Founders intention, the worse society has gotten.
There will never be anything that GOD can't do or fix if people will simply seek after HIM.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:31 pm to riccoar
Imagine if the founding fathers were rappers. Imagine what the constitution would look like.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:37 pm to Meauxjeaux
They believed our rights were based on an inherent dignity and value that is derived from our creator. Our secular society does not even recognize such a category and thinks that a majority rule is sufficient to give and take away rights based on the subjective whims of the masses. It's a completely different worldview than what the founders were wrestling with.
It's no wonder that the people--as the Bible says--do what is good in their own eyes.
It's no wonder that the people--as the Bible says--do what is good in their own eyes.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:37 pm to Meauxjeaux
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It seems like the founding fathers understood the human complex, but delivered an ultimately inadequate solution.... I kinda get it.... who in the 1700's would (could?) anticipate outward corruption and collective unwillingness to confront it? Who would have thought activists could premise that men have babies and a large portion of the people would either defend it or shrug it off as not important to deal with.
Scripture clearly says that it is a few who will "get it" (the wide and narrow gates, right?) but "few" gets out-voted pretty easily.
They provided the greatest system of government in human history. I'd say the feat was utterly amazing.
It is not their fault that the course of human events in subsequent centuries squandered their genius. It was almost inevitable given the general propensity man has for greed, power, and corruption. Their system was designed specifically to counter this inevitability and provide both the other branches and the people themselves the power to fight it off when it arose. They were truly the greatest generation.
They also cannot be held responsible for the rise of infectious global ideologies like Marxism, the promotion of "multiculturalism," or passing the right to vote to any and everyone. They specifically warned of the dangers of democracy as a rule of the mob and a tyranny of another form. There are a lot of places to point to for the current condition of degeneracy and decline our nation and society finds itself, the Founders ain't the ones to blame. We strayed from their example and the results are predictable.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:39 pm to Meauxjeaux
I don't think we can blame the Founding Fathers, the REAL greatest generation, for what the Swamp has become.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:40 pm to Meauxjeaux
Most, including 2 you named, were Free Masons and thought divinity was a made up scam.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:50 pm to riccoar
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There will never be anything that GOD can't do or fix if people will simply seek after HIM.
And who will Seek after Him? Not many. Definitely not most. Heck, while no liberal seeks God, even most MAGAs look after their own will thinking it's God's will.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:54 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:Probably everyone. There were corrupt governments at that time.
who in the 1700's would (could?) anticipate outward corruption and collective unwillingness to confront it?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 3:05 pm to Meauxjeaux
You have to remember the Constitution was written in the Age of Enlightenment. These Gentlemen considered themselves to be highly educated , savvy, and knowledgeable of the World's events, most especially Franklin. To say, or characterize themselves as wholly religious, or morally superior is something of a stretch, considering what history has told us about these men.
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