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Props to John Fetterman, if Dems want to regain popularity support stuff like this not

Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15776 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:46 am
trannies, illegal immigration, defund the police, etc.

John Fetterman: This Drug Changed My Life. More Americans Need Access.

The Trump administration recently nixed a rule proposed by President Joe Biden that would have made it easier for 7.4 million Americans to afford antiobesity medications called GLP-1s. This was a mistake. These drugs, like Ozempic and Wegovy, can be a game changer. I know firsthand. In July, I was prescribed a drug called Mounjaro. As a stroke survivor, I was interested in studies showing it could significantly reduce the risk of major cardiac events. Mounjaro is used to treat Type 2 diabetes, and a version recently received Food and Drug Administration approval for weight loss.

Even though I started taking it for my heart health, I’ve been struck by how much better it has made me feel across the board. It’s made a significant impact on my overall health. Aches, pains and stiffness have vanished. Physically, I feel a decade younger, clearer-headed, and more optimistic than I’ve been in years. As far as a side effects, I’ve also lost around 20 pounds. These drugs lower blood sugar, cholesterol, heart rate and heart inflammation. Some recent studies suggest they might even help curb alcohol addiction and support cognitive function, potentially slowing or preventing conditions like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s.

Without insurance coverage, drugs like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro are prohibitively expensive — up to $1,000 every month. Currently, Medicare covers these drugs only under specific circumstances, such as for diabetes or heightened heart risk. And Medicaid coverage is even more limited. In November, President Biden set out to change that with a new rule that would drastically expand access to this type of medication. This rule would have expanded coverage for an estimated 3.4 million Americans who use Medicare and four million more on Medicaid, reducing out-of-pocket costs by as much as 95 percent.

Some people argue we shouldn’t expand coverage because it could increase Medicare spending. It’s true that these drugs are too expensive, but Medicare has the power to negotiate for a better deal. And the reality is that chronic diseases like diabetes and heart disease cost the U.S. economy over $1 trillion annually. Investing now means healthier Americans in the future. Others, like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the health secretary, argue that we should prioritize healthier diets over medication. I fully agree that diet and lifestyle matter — a lot. But diet alone isn’t enough. For the millions of Americans struggling with serious health issues, medication can be a crucial first step to regaining enough control
of their health to begin making meaningful lifestyle changes.

Full editorial is here -
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Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23124 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:48 am to
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trannies, illegal immigration, defund the police, etc.


That is their wheelhouse though. Your party is dead.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78761 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:51 am to
I shouldn’t have to pay for his life long mistake of being overweight.


I didn’t do that to him.


Or how about this, we do a fair trade. I pay for his drugs, he pays for my personal trainer.

This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 7:55 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57736 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:53 am to
I can understand the argument for Medicaid covering weight loss drugs since that would, in theory, result in fewer payments for worse health problems later. I can get behind that.

However, I think we need more evidence that these drugs won't cause worse health problems before we jump aboard that ship.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
8323 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:54 am to
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I’ve also lost around 20 pounds.


Could you have also done that with a disciplined diet and an hour of walking each day?
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9754 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:55 am to
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Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro are prohibitively expensive — up to $1,000 every month.


While I am for profits, does it really cost 1,000 dollars to manufacture an injection pen and fill it with GPL-1 drugs. I know some of it boils down to recovering research costs. But even drug companies know that 1,000 dollars is too much and have programs that offer it for as low as 30 dollars if you qualify.
Posted by Deacon
Miami, FL
Member since Dec 2009
223 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:55 am to
I might personally disagree with the policy, but this a MUCH better agenda than boys in girls sports, or keeping gangsters in the country.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4270 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:56 am to
We're going to pay one way or the other (insurance premiums, cogs, taxes, etc.), but I guarantee that whatever the negotiated price for these drugs is, it's cheaper than what we would pay with the heath results of obesity.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5617 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:58 am to
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While I am for profits, does it really cost 1,000 dollars to manufacture an injection pen and fill it with GPL-1 drugs.


no anyone with some kind of medical knowledge can make their own generic
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24414 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:59 am to
Another Medicaid / Medicare program funding Big Pharma. How could this Democrat Boondoggle possibly go wrong.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48731 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:01 am to
He didn't write that!

A.I. wrote that.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30158 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:02 am to
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Could you have also done that with a disciplined diet and an hour of walking each day?


Oh hush! Ain't got time for that shite.

Regards,

America's general population.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21556 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:06 am to
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Currently, Medicare covers these drugs only under specific circumstances, such as for diabetes or heightened heart risk.

I’m not saying only these conditions warrant using GLPs, but using them just because you want to drop 30 without any effort isn’t good.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27338 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:35 am to
So you’re liberal and fat.

Do you have pointy black frame glasses and blue hair? I’m going for a bingo
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7764 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:43 am to
Would think there are several steps before this including cutting off junk food from EBT
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4270 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:45 am to
The upfront cost of just the manufacturing of a Biological Drug is enormous, let alone adding in the R&D costs it took to get it there.

On the R&D side, only 10-15% of all drugs in pipelines make it thru to commercial approval. This is how they recoup the cost of all the failed drugs that didn't make it to market.

I don't say this depending the practice, just pointing out the system.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33899 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:49 am to
Government subsidizing corn syrup and paying for processed food poison for poor people causing them to become obese and then paying for drugs to reverse the effects of the food they bought.

Make it make sense.

Let’s pay for a supercharger for the poor people’s mustangs and then pay for their attorney when they get a reckless driving ticket!


Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22953 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:40 am to
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does it really cost 1,000 dollars to manufacture an injection pen and fill it with GPL-1 drugs.


frick no. You can get a year's supply for less than half that straight from the lab. a month supply, which is four pins, likely cost less than $30 to produce.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149393 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:44 am to
Medicaid patients are some of the least compliant when it comes to doctors orders if not the worst

The pills will either sit, be sold, or be used as a crutch to eat more.

Those people aren’t interested in the work it takes to get healthy.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1324 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:48 am to
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Or how about this, we do a fair trade. I pay for his drugs, he pays for my personal trainer.


Seriously.

If you incentivize something you get more of it. Incentivize free/cheap drugs so you can eat worse than a pig but not look like one then you will get mote of it.

Much rather government subsidize personal trainers/gym memberships/nutritionists than drugs like these.
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