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Why has the United States fallen so far in shipbuilding?

Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28875 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:58 pm
Until recently I just assumed it was due to low cost workers and substandard safety in South Korea, but then my eyes opened to many European nations also having successful ship building operations.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70760 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:00 pm to
Can't cut down the Live Oaks anymore like the old days. It was great timber for ship building.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47403 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:02 pm to
They are having trouble finding workers willing to work a physically demanding job for long hours with low pay.
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
10059 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:03 pm to
Unions
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:03 pm to
Foreign ships passed our ships in the night
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:05 pm to
European’s almost entire lives are subsidized by the government.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
54605 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:05 pm to
OBAMA
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:06 pm to
Costs, mainly. The only reason the industry still exists at all is the Jones act.

Its expensive as hell to build a ship in America. Vastly more expensive than anywhere else in the world.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9635 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:07 pm to
Asbestos
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60888 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:09 pm to
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Costs, mainly. The only reason the industry still exists at all is the Jones act.


This
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6074 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:09 pm to
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Unions


There are unions in Europe. I’d assume with more power than USA
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
11025 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:12 pm to
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They are having trouble finding workers willing to work a physically demanding job for long hours with low pay.


While this may be true, this isn’t the reason.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55721 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:25 pm to
Yep, unions and labor laws.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25525 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:32 pm to
In the marine industry and it’s because of cheaper labor and loose regulations if any.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
22935 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Can't cut down the Live Oaks


Live oak ain't good for anything but moss and shade.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
29148 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Unions
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2502 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:39 pm to
I recommend the Maine Maritime Museum if you ever get the chance. It is at the location that many ships used to be built.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28875 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:39 pm to
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n the marine industry and it’s because of cheaper labor and loose regulations if any.


I think all of the new Disney cruise ships are being built in Germany which I would have assumed is more expensive than stateside.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70760 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:40 pm to
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Live oak ain't good for anything but moss and shade.


The Royal British Navy in the 18th century would disagree with you.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25525 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:49 pm to
Yes I’m referring to cargo vessels. Germany probably has some of the best technology to build cruise liners and yes Disney and the German shipbuilder Meyer have a long history together and ongoing contracts.
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