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Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity is BS

Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9950 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:27 am
According to one new Study (Guardian)

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he study involved 16 participants with non-coeliac gluten sensitivity and 20 healthy controls. Researchers gave participants yoghurt containing either 16g of gluten or whey protein. For five days, the participants also consumed two muffins daily, which each contained either 8g gluten, or no gluten.

After a two-week period, participants were then switched to the other intervention but were not aware of which they were ingesting.

Individuals with gluten-sensitivity reported increased fatigue after both the gluten and placebo yoghurt compared to healthy controls. They also reported increased pain and bloating with both the gluten and gluten-free muffins.


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Researchers believe the response to gluten may be explained by a nocebo effect, the opposite of the placebo effect, in which a negative outcome results from an expectation that the treatment will be harmful.

At baseline, the gluten-sensitive participants had a higher negative effect, the researchers noted.

“From working with these patient groups for more than 15 years, I can say their symptoms are real. It’s just that, for many of them, gluten may not be the specific cause,” Biesiekierski said.

Previous research has suggested that fructan, a type of carbohydrate, may be the culprit for abdominal symptoms in people with self-reported gluten sensitivity.


Study size is obviously small, but consistent with everyone's anecdotal evidence that we've seen all along.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56722 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:29 am to
The ot thinks gluten sensitivity is bs because you’re not a real man unless you eat 6 of the donuts that the salesman brings to the plant
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9950 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:31 am to
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donuts that the salesman brings to the plant

They just don't taste right without a light sprinkling of the gaseous chlorine residue that settles on top.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
38900 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:47 am to
Maybe this is why cows started making huge steaks because all the people with the gluten.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19760 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:52 am to
“Gluten sensitivity” = out of shape, sedentary, and eating too much junk food.

I, too, would feel like shite eating bread if the majority of my day’s movement was walking to my car in the parking lot after work.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:55 am to
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Previous research has suggested that fructan, a type of carbohydrate, may be the culprit for abdominal symptoms in people with self-reported gluten sensitivity.

I don’t have a dog in this hunt, but if true, wouldn’t that contradict that the symptoms are psychosomatic?
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34063 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:56 am to
Dis tread gonna be good!
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12365 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:58 am to
Yeah, my daughter has been diagnosed with Celiacs, and it's a mess. The good thing about all these nonceliac pretenders is that everywhere you go to eat or shop they have gluten-free products.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9950 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:02 am to
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wouldn’t that contradict that the symptoms are psychosomatic?

That was a different study, this one appears to have been structured precisely to determine whether the symptoms were psychosomatic. It was likely included to pre-detonate arguments in the comments section.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31919 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:04 am to
A lot of it is the shitty, processed bread, not the gluten.

Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10832 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:07 am to
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my daughter has been diagnosed with Celiacs, and it's a mess


Same. Started at 9yo with blood drawn then moved to the GI scope with biopsy of colon to confirm.

over these last 3 years we have gotten it down to a science, but it is still a pain in the arse outside of a controlled environment.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1518 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:07 am to
Self-reported gluten sensitivity

This study did not select people who had medically diagnosed gluten sensitivity via IgA and IgG antibody blood test.

Of course self-diagnosed people are full of shite, but gluten sensitivity is a real thing.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:11 am to
quote:

That was a different study, this one appears to have been structured precisely to determine whether the symptoms were psychosomatic. It was likely included to pre-detonate arguments in the comments section.

I haven’t read the study yet, but did it intentionally exclude that listed carbohydrate?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9653 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:15 am to
Ever notice it's upper middle class, suburban white women that have all the gluten allergies? You don't see these insane allergies in large numbers in Africa, east Asia, the Middle East, etc. because this shite is either 1) all made up or 2) you've been made so weak by your plush environment you can't eat the one basic thing you were made to digest.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
8447 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:15 am to
Yes it would.

My wife is a small person. 5’6 115 pounds. She works out, she walks, she eats real foods.

She has gluten sensitivity due to the sugar present in bread. As a result, she can only eat a certain amount. It’s easier to just go gluten free when not at home.

It’s not a fun quirky thing. It was devastating to her for a number of years as she didn’t know what was making her sick. Upon finding out, it’s again devastating because there are two restaurants we can eat at, and when we go to a function she has to bring her own food all the while we know people think she full of it. It’s less painful to look like an uppity person than have a stomachache everyday.

I see a lot of people call BS on this and then brag about blowing a bathroom. Bro, your gut doesn’t like the food you’re eating.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23369 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:18 am to
I can tell you that when I eat commercially made bread, I feel like shite. Is it the gluten? maybe.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6038 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:33 am to
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Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity


It’s the new peanut allergy
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14152 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:36 am to
anything gluten related is bs.

Money.

And once this thought consumes a person they consume less food.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 9:37 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Ever notice it's upper middle class, suburban white women


Same with anorexia and bulimia. It was never a black chick from East St Louis or a Hispanic girl from Brownsville. It was always a white broad from Boca Raton or Westchester County.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1898 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:42 am to
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For five days, the participants also consumed two muffins daily, which each contained either 8g gluten, or no gluten.

After a two-week period, participants were then switched to the other intervention but were not aware of which they were ingesting.

That's bullshite. You can't eat a gluten free muffin and not know it, they're disgusting. That calls the whole 'study' into question.
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