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When debating 47 with my liberal friends how do I cogently defend the apparent "chaos"

Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3378 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:31 am
they all scream about of his first few months? The point they frequently make is "he has no real plan and he's just making it up as he goes" and while I am of the mind of "the world isn't ending like you claim...let's wait and see how it turns out" how would you explain to a liberal friend why they should just relax and let this play out.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16972 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:33 am to
Trump absolutely has a plan, they just don’t like it and can’t process the speed at which it’s being put into play so they are freaking out.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32085 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:33 am to
There is no chaos.

Are you under the impression that Biden's term was smooth?

It's all a media illusion.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
2853 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:33 am to
The "chaos" is merely how the media chooses to portray him.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
11447 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:34 am to
If they’re parroting msnbc talking points like that they’re already too far gone. Best to cut bait and find new friends that aren’t so easily manipulated by TV and their favorite celebrities.
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2386 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:35 am to
Dont debate with them. He won the election. Time will tell if what he’s doing will pay off. Liberals will scream every day for the next 4 years, but who gives a shite. Let them scream. And let DJT and his administration do what you voted for him to do. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

If somehow all of the needed changes dont work out, then vote differently next time. But no need to sit there and debate about it every day until then.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
7882 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:35 am to
quote:

how would you explain to a liberal friend


Avoidance, by not allowing a relationship like this to occur.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3279 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:36 am to
The chaos is manufactured by the media mostly. Trump is attempting something that no other politician has done in rooting out the fraud and waste. The media turns it into he is cutting things that should never be touched. Also they are reacting to the fact that they won't believe anything said because they don't like Trump or Musk.

I feel you though because trying to argue this with retards in real life or on Reddit is nearly impossible. They have made up their minds already and anything you show them will be immediately dismissed. It is probably not worth trying.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3197 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:37 am to
If you ask them to examine the issues. They’ll see that the media is grasping at straws and they’re are following blindly. They’ll say oh look at the stock market and you should say look what’s happening with gas prices. That lever pretty much drives everything else in the market.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4646 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:37 am to
quote:


There is no chaos.

Are you under the impression that Biden's term was smooth?

It's all a media illusion.


This.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36142 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:37 am to

Trump is undeniably doing what needs to be done.

And Joe still hasn't cured cancer, which was one of his campaign promises.

Just as John Kerry didn't cure paralysis with stem cells.

Dems say shite they know will never happen just to get elected.


Trump is doing what he said he'd do.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3378 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:37 am to
quote:

He won the election. Time will tell if what he’s doing will pay off.


This is the point I'm making...everything he campaigned on he is doing...and doing fast...the people elected him to do it...so while you may not be happy about it, it should not come as a shock that it's happening. And then I say did the world end after his first term? No so just chill and watch
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11748 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:38 am to
Point out that the “chaos” is their behavior.
Posted by Hawgleg
Member since Jan 2022
383 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:39 am to
This was Trumps plan. Hit them with so much shite daily they dont know where to turn and fight. Blitz full court press ahead.

Keep them talking about Canada and Greenland. Like a big ol O line wearing down the D. Keep pounding.

Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6612 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:39 am to
If you turn the news off, do you feel any chaos in your daily life?

Trump does 100 things simultaneously. It can feel chaotic and the media chooses to portray it as such. He's also bombastic as a negotiating tactic. Well documented in his own books.

The power of the media. Biden was sharp as a tack for 4 years until suddenly he was unfit and they had it gone in a few weeks.

Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
6264 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:39 am to
First off you can’t debate your liberal friends. They’re right and you’re wrong no matter what.

It would maybe mean something to tangle with them but their brains are incapable of logic. They are just woke robots that don’t have the ability to change their minds. Facts mean nothing to them. It’s in their DNA.

If Trump walked out of the White House and said, “What a beautiful blue sky today.” They’d question if the sky is really blue and has really been green all along. Then they would question the merits on whether a blue sky is beautiful. You think I’m kidding. I’m not.

Defriend and get away from these mentally deranged people ASAP.

Climate change may or may not be real.
Aliens visiting Earth may or may not be real.
The COVID vaccine worked may or not be real
TDS IS REAL!

As insane as this may sound, these truly are the worst human beings on Earth.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108151 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:40 am to
I'd prefer America First chaos over quiet treason.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3112 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:42 am to
The government spending bloat is so entrenched and the beneficiaries all have lawyers to protect their gains.
Trump must move fast and broad to spread the legal challenges and outrage.

There are things he is moving on that are only to tie up ACLU legal teams and leftists advocate judges.

The deported Hamas "student" that case is on a judges docket which means he's taking less other cases.

The grifters know which judges their law teams need to target.

Flood the zone.
Make the left wing media outraged at everything.

Confuse the message.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:43 am to
Just do what Trump Loyalists always do when someone calls him out...

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46199 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:44 am to
quote:

he's just making it up as he goes

There is no statement possible further from the truth than /\ THAT /\

No sentient mind could hold that opinion. What we are witnessing is the most exquisitely planned maneuver since D-Day on Normandy beaches.

The DEMs are so bewildered by the avalanche of initiatives hitting them that they are in full retreat. Their only response is tossing out some land mines in their wake hoping someone will step on them. And they are not even disguising them, so only the most stupid or drunk would step on one.

What we are witnessing is a rout - the magnitude of which is rarely seen outside a comedy sketch. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

All we have to fear is an assassination.
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