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Transfer fees for the transfer portal. Good idea or bad?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 4:23 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 4:23 am
While I do not follow, nor understand completely international soccer. One thing that has become readily apparent is much like in European football especially the British football pyramid. CFB and men’s basketball is headed or almost at a point, where there are conferences that either have (The top flight) and those that have not. This is not just to look out for smaller schools or those in lesser conferences but talking with a friend that is maybe one of the less than 10 die hard Tulane supporters. He knows Sumrall will get poached, but it’s not just when but how much of the team is gutted and then how much will it cost in NIL to bring in a new coach and pay the new players is the burden.
As many know, finishing second or third in recruiting high school athletes is more important than ever because, if or when, they jump in the portal after a year or two. That relationship is not only already built. The connections to the “advisors”, agents, family members, and handlers is there. Just as in soccer, with their multiple transfer windows, and smaller clubs losing top end talent when it is time. If there was a transfer fee that is paid by the new schools collective on top of the new NIL deal for the transfer players. The number I would suggest is 33% of the initial first year package. So for a $100k deal. The new schools collective would transfer or pay $33k to the school from which a player transferred. Not only would it help the have nots, but potentially keep more players at their current schools.
As many know, finishing second or third in recruiting high school athletes is more important than ever because, if or when, they jump in the portal after a year or two. That relationship is not only already built. The connections to the “advisors”, agents, family members, and handlers is there. Just as in soccer, with their multiple transfer windows, and smaller clubs losing top end talent when it is time. If there was a transfer fee that is paid by the new schools collective on top of the new NIL deal for the transfer players. The number I would suggest is 33% of the initial first year package. So for a $100k deal. The new schools collective would transfer or pay $33k to the school from which a player transferred. Not only would it help the have nots, but potentially keep more players at their current schools.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:13 am to Coastrashtiger
I was thinking this should happen. The scholly needs to be set a fixed value and the destination school should reimburse the departed one. These players have no appreciation for the investment required to recruit, train, house, feed and educate them. At least this set up would give a shadow of credence to the idea of education first
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:27 am to PalletJack
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These players have no appreciation for the investment required to recruit, train, house, feed and educate them
neither do the schools, they just think the fans/boosters will pony up unlimited amounts.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:40 am to Corinthians420
quote:Amen. The whole thing has become an unsustainable mess.
neither do the schools, they just think the fans/boosters will pony up unlimited amounts.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:44 am to PalletJack
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I was thinking this should happen. The scholly needs to be set a fixed value and the destination school should reimburse the departed one. These players have no appreciation for the investment required to recruit, train, house, feed and educate them. At least this set up would give a shadow of credence to the idea of education first
Your proposal intrigues me. A fixed value for these scholarships. A tax on the disloyal ensures those who abandon their posts repay the institution that forged them. These players, ungrateful for the resources expended, lack discipline. Forcing the usurping school to reimburse the betrayed restores a semblance of order, a shadow of control over their chaos. Education first, you say? A noble lie, but one that could be enforced with an iron grip. Your system has potential, yet it bows too much to their freedom. I would crush such insolence outright.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:50 am to Coastrashtiger
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potentially keep more players at their current schools.
Even when they don’t want to be
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:18 am to chalmetteowl
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potentially keep more players at their current schools.
Even when they don’t want to be
You'll end up with dozens of Ben Simmons types. Great skills with no desire to be where they are and just biding their time.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:16 am to Coastrashtiger
How would you implement this without collective bargaining?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:09 am to Jcorye1
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How would you implement this without collective bargaining?
While certainly I would never be mistaken for a labor or contracts lawyer. Probably in the current system, without a CBA, would be first a commissioner/conference decision. Then the collectives of each individual school transferring the “contract” between them.
Hypothetically, you could almost make a small niche market akin to an insurance syndicate. Where each collective acts like a company. Each player signs a “policy”, and if they switch companies a % of the new premium is thus given to the old school/collective. With the conferences acting like reinsurers. In many ways the conferences already do for many things.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 9:12 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:10 am to Coastrashtiger
the solution to this problem is collective bargaining and schools paying players directly.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:19 am to chalmetteowl
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Even when they don’t want to be
From a players perspective, never in the history of certainly college sports, maybe even American sports with money. Has there been so much freedom for athletes to move and reset or test their market value than before. They are headed towards a 5-in-5 model, with no redshirts, no waivers needed, and potentially unlimited transfers. I do not know the numbers or %, but I know there are some that love where they are at, but they simply cannot pass up the money and not leave.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:34 am to Coastrashtiger
Fully should happen. It's identical to players leaving academies in soccer.
For someone like Southeastern for instance that has sent players almost every year to P4 schools, getting a fee of $150-250k could completely transform the program. LSU or OU would have easily paid that for Zy Alexander or Bauer Sharp, and some players like Jack Henderson at Minnesota would have probably gotten $75-100k for the rights.
For someone like Southeastern for instance that has sent players almost every year to P4 schools, getting a fee of $150-250k could completely transform the program. LSU or OU would have easily paid that for Zy Alexander or Bauer Sharp, and some players like Jack Henderson at Minnesota would have probably gotten $75-100k for the rights.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:37 am to Jcorye1
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How would you implement this without collective bargaining?
Screw collective bargaining, how do you limit the movement of people who aren’t your employees?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 3:22 pm to SammyTiger
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the solution to this problem is collective bargaining and schools paying players directly.
And signing contracts for 2-4 years.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:15 am to Coastrashtiger
While I hate what college sports have become, even if you put an exit fee on transfers, then incoming school will just pay it as apart of their new contract
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