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This doesn't sound good Might not have a roster after all


Go NCAA! They are really something man, that’s their answer to this???? :lol:

They still are so out of touch they won’t even craft or conceive legislation with Sherman in mind. Just an absolute clown show. They just paid in the 2025 fiscal year something like $28 million in legal fees not counting in house salaries and consulting fees. They still are going to write or come up with stuff at odds with antitrust federal law. Beyond me how Baker and that group can continue to say they need to be looked at for guidance or a real voice in any of this.
So when I first heard that CWW was going to not only go after a few active participating Euroleague players but effectively buy them out and take the risk of them never coming I was surprised to say the least.

Then when you start talking about 3, or 4, let alone 5 commitments/signings, it was dang. Everyone knows he doesn’t care about the opinions of others outside the program (Fans/alumni/boosters considered inside program) but that he would openly upend and take advantage of the lack of regulation you knew it would make huge waves. But he is going after 9-12 commitments basically saying to not only the CBB establishment but the sports media in general, this is the bed you are selling I will buy the California king size version and let everyone know. It is glorious. It says not only we are here but that we are here to win.
de Laurrea I would estimate at 25% he commits, 10% he makes it to campus. As we speak still no numbers discussed.
Yes also Ronald Dupree has been a huge help as well!
Really think it could be a MLB style high school draft pick approach at this point. I’m still worried about Madar or Niang coming over and actually making it to campus.
Yessir. Outta nowhere hadn’t heard about it even more fascinating he is taking his name out of the draft.
He just got another commitment and will sign a EURO that is that committed to Wade that he is taking his name out of the NBA draft! :doublebird:

I don’t know if he is trying yet, but if he ever tries really hard man better watch out right?
By the way Wade and LSU just got a commitment from a EURO that was in this years NBA draft class and is taking his name out that nobody had heard of even being in contact with. You still have Graves and now de Laurrea
Glorious keep them coming. At this point I hope and I know he does just go and sign a current NBA player or have them commit. What are people going to get upset. Great add
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Could you post a few of the articles that are highly critical of Wade?


Ummmm. this is just one article a summation of a national cbb podcast…..

Will Wade, I wish you didn’t come back to college basketball,”

But, man, you suck for college basketball right now. Seriously. You suck for college basketball. Like, you’re making it into a mockery. And look in the mirror, and understand it’s not just about you. This is about more than just you. This is about the sport of college basketball. Have some pride. Have some dignity. Don’t try to ruin the sport.”

What a joke
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Jeff really needs to calm down, first off there is no pride or dignity on the unemployment line. It’s about winning. He needs to keep those thoughts to himself.

The first sign was when you hired ‘Slick Rick’ Stansbury,” Goodman said. “That was the first sign when you got to LSU that you were going to muck it up as much as humanly possible. I know people are trying to push the rules. I get it.

He quickly pivoted to slandering multiple other coaches to show how Qill is the worst among them????

And now it’s the same sh*t all over again. Obviously, the rules have changed. We know that. But, come on, man. Again, have some pride. Have some dignity in your profession! In your profession! Have some dignity. F*ck.”

Somebody needs to tell Jeff, yeah it is Wade’s profession he can make the calls for his life, if he doesn’t mind. Second Wade doesn’t answer to anyone accept the powers at be at LSU. He doesn’t have any kind of professional courtesy that is expected to anyone else to explain himself before he makes a decision as the Head Coach. Given that it’s his profession your media opinion about what is and isn’t prideful in someone’s else’s profession does not only not matter. I think any human would be infuriated if someone outside of their profession told them after 20 years in a business to quit, and be talked to like a toddler what they should have done in the past, and what they need to do in the future.

Written enough Goodman then posts 4 separate coaches that told him basically what a POS Wade is, how he is ruining the sport, my favorite though is when two of them give him a compliment when they say only Wade would do this. That’s a compliment Pitino and Izzo.

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He’s not “signing” players who now automatically get to play and that no one else has access to. He’s recruiting players and soliciting commitments from players who he knows may not be eligible.


Not trying to be argumentative at all, I still want to know besides Luis Jr. how could they when they apply for eligibility be ruled ineligible. Can show right now in the SEC 15 examples from last year and the portal this given moment, of the exact same situation. They were ruled eligible and are playing/transferring in. The only big difference was CWW cut out the middle men and didn’t wait. They went directly to pro teams with buyout money, and did nothing wrong. They just got so many at once directly from the second best league in the world. LSU doesn’t need permission or have the inclination to let people know what they are doing? It’s recruiting, I mean so when Mark Pope from Kentucky flew to Tel Aviv sat down with Santos and was told no by him and his agent I don’t want to play for you GTFO, LSU had been in co tact with him before during and after. What LSU should have called Kentucky and told them hey don’t give up he still might want to play. Or call Kansas about Dessert, like Desseet committed and was going to come over and play for Kansas last year, the reason he didn’t wasn’t because of eligibility it was the draft, Andalou coming in and offering a good deal and he didn’t wanna leave Europe at the time in his life plain and simple.
Being a lawyer by trade only, the NCAA looks like a huge insurance company right now that is just denying every claim they get, and then when they get sued left and right, they are just signing up every defense firm they can find and paying them full well knowing they are going to lose. By now there has to be between football, men’s and women’s basketball, there have even been golf cases, track and field cases, maybe hundred or thousands of individual “cases” where they may only be winning on the merit 2-3% of the time. With new legislation, they would still be at odds with federal antitrust laws. Even after a 25 year age limit is imposed, you still have religious, military, medical, and state laws where it can be easily argued and won they can’t do it.

I personally agree I don’t want unlimited player movement, no restrictions on the type of transfers, and I would like some kind of age/prior experience bylaw. Because i’m not worried it will ruin or fundamentally change college athletics. I’m worried in 10-15 years some of these gets gobbled up by pro sports or overnight a university has to cease athletics and are left with a ridiculous I don’t know $200-$300 million shortfall overnight. Have asked on social media, multiple pages of message boards, coaches, players. So if what LSU is doing is “wrong” is what everyone else doing wrong as well. I’m not talking about the hypocrisy of it, i’m talking about the reality that’s in front of everyone. I feel like when they started this about a month ago, knew then it would cause a huge stir and upend things, didn’t think the vast majority of people would be detached from reality about it.
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I think on the whole ALL college sports fans would just like a world where there was clarity on the rules and there weren't constant runs to the courthouse to bend them in your favor for your specific need at the time.


Totally agree.

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So some of what you were hearing from Matt was just one side of the behind the scenes battle...the side that was not all in on Wade returning. They didn't want to allow themselves to be bullied by the Governor, for various reasons.


I got that and understood it. What i’m saying is okay he was sorta against the Wade rehire or spoke in his connections and their internal feelings. But even if Vesge didn’t want to. Up until the minute Wade returned, there was never any pushback or it felt like any real plan, for lack of a better word had they won the power struggle. So Wade doesn’t come to LSU. There was no sense and actually it was put forth the opposite on three occasions by guests on Moscona’s show of so you don’t get Wade, your going to keep McMahon? Will only had one week between getting hired and the portal opening. So Vegre himself speaking about the job or others you were gooing to keep McMahon, or let him go but you didn’t have a search ready, or have any names they put forward themselves. It would have been a very tough sell to get a good list of coaches that would have wanted that job, if they didn’t want Wade they didn’t have anything else though, so in effect they are just hurting the program and university for what power?
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Won't they be affected by the age limit when the 5 for 5 thing passes?


If and when it passes as it’s currently conceived. None of them had started their clocks, besides I don’t know how you could legally set an arbitrary age ceiling for the 5 and 5. As in for decades the NCAA has allowed cross sport pros to come back mostly baseball to football guys at any age to start their clocks in another amateur sport. The 5 in 5 won’t affect any of these guys either they aren’t 2-3 year guys even they are 3 month mercenaries. In the portal top 100 you have what 30 internationals right now but they are all 2-3-4 year college guys even the ones that played professionally overseas. So I think it will almost be like grad transfers for these guys in a sense is how the NCAA should craft a rule if they want to limit it or do something.
So I found out about a week ago, they were in contact, was able to say it yesterday. He would be the best of all the EUROs if he came. The chatter is this, LSU is pretty much there with if he considered after the draft coming to college for a year it would be LSU nobody else has even reached out so. But there is the fact, a team like OKC could definitely draft him to hide, if he’s a first round pick may not have a choice. He wants to come over and start his NBA journey but if he’s a second round pick won’t be his sole decision for a year. His parents and agent are totally on board as having LSU as an option. It’s not his goal or first option. But I believe having all these others from Europe if the draft doesn’t go his way maybe they could sway him after. They haven’t even discussed money though. So it would be weeks after the draft to hear anything.
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The only 1 worth a flip is Luis.


That’s your opinion? Do tell how you came to that conclusion. I’m just confused news to me why did all the blue bloods and big time programs want these guys as well? How could UCONN or North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, all have gotten it so wrong, I mean they should have you on staff to straighten it out.
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Yeah, I found it interesting the way Mascona framed it.


He has no clue about basketball has proved that over many years. Not only that throughout the entire McMahon tenure up until the day before the switch to Wade, McMahon personally and on orders wanted to keep McMahon over Wade. I’m not saying I know for sure but there’s enough evidence that Moscona does not understand at all or want Wade as a coach/ambassador for LSU. Moscona doesn’t dislike Wade the person or wish him bad success because that would mean the hand that feeds would do worse. But at every turn will downplay credit to any Wade success and try and build up McMahon or any other program. It’s just odd, I assume it goes back to when Jordy Cullotta left Guranty and took the amount of acces they had with him to his own thing, maybe has to do with that.
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You still are not getting it. That incident happened before he was even coaching at LSU the first time. He wrote a check from a personal account (his wife's checking account I think) and gave it to a player's family member (mom I think)


Correct whether the player in question was going to come or did come to LSU, Will was going to do it anyways. Ricky tack stuff like that still happens on a weekly basis all over college sports and is still against the NCAA rules today. But not only can they not enforce it, even if they proved it today, nobody cares or is looking least of all the NCAA.
No he is saying the situation, due to the NCAA not being able to get him ont he wiretap stuff at all. Woodward then having an out to fire him for cause. The thing he gets “busted” for is not even in the Top 500 of stuff he actually did (That everyone else does) of what the NCAA or anyone else would think is in any “wrong”, “unethical”, “cheating”, or subversive. He put himself in the situation and it was a mater of time, but honestly some could say it really shined a light on given the state now just how backwards and messed up the old system was.
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and maybe it was U18 Madrid,


Luka is 27, he played for the big club at 16 and full time by 17. Klavzae is 21 made his debut if you want to call it that and has never been called up to the big club. On Slovenia Klavzae isn’t even a full rostered member of the senior national team. My point is you said why people think Madar is going to come in and be some All-SEC caliber player is you put it like not realistic or something. But then I asked about Klavzae and you say he’s borderline and talk about his accomplishments. Madar is probably the least talented, lowest ceiling, and least athletic of the 7 euros, and if Klavzae is the 6th man of the year in the SEC I am saying LSU will have 3-4 All-SEC players immediately
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It would seems to me that getting one or two questionable players eligible wouldn't have been an issue. BUT trying to get an entire team of loophole players eligible seems like its destined to backfire.


Besides Luis Jr. They aren’t loophole guys or going to be challenging. They are not eligible right now because they haven’t even filed to become eligible and start their clock with the NCAA. They haven’t applied to college, they don’t live, have visas yet, or have visited the country. Of course they aren’t eligible they just finished officially like two days ago playing in Europe. LSU isn’t sneakily or trying to skirt any rule or regulation, or by law with them besides Luis Jr. They just haven’t even applied which they will most likely get immediately when they do.