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Its time: end ethanol requirements in our gasoline
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:42 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:42 am
Was talking to a buddy of mine that works in a refinery. He was talking about how much faster and cheaper it is to make just PURE GAS without all the additives required and ethanol. Our vehicles would run much better(though some may need adjustments) on pure gasoline, the price would be cheaper and people would get better gas mileage.
I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP...but im sorry this is an artificial industry and needs to go
I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP...but im sorry this is an artificial industry and needs to go
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:44 am to scottydoesntknow
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.but im sorry this is an artificial industry and needs to go
I agree, however
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP
That's a conversation from the form of the American right a few years before MAGA came around.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:44 am to scottydoesntknow
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Our vehicles would run much better(though some may need adjustments) on pure gasoline
Not really, the newer cars chips adjust the timing for the octane.
But I do agree with doing away with ethanol.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 7:46 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:46 am to scottydoesntknow
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP
We can cut out a heck of a lot of other subsidies in the farming world along with welfare....
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:46 am to scottydoesntknow
If you live in an area with a lot of boats....it's easy to get pure gasoline.
Both of our cars get far better fuel economy on fuel with 0% ethanol than on E-10. It's not even close either - it's a 3-4 mpg difference.
Both of our cars get far better fuel economy on fuel with 0% ethanol than on E-10. It's not even close either - it's a 3-4 mpg difference.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:47 am to scottydoesntknow
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP..
There you go. Trump won't touch it. He attacked DeSantis for voting against it if I remember correctly.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:50 am to scottydoesntknow
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP..
So instruct the NRCS (one of the actual useful agencies) to teach/ guide farmers to produce quality foods through no till, cover crop, and rotational grazing of ruminants.
Even if it requires then to use some of the newly opened up headcount from the DEI mandate
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:01 am to Cuz413
10 to 15cyears ago i had to go out of my way to find gas without eth. Now just about every station has non eth gas.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:05 am to frogtown
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Trump won't touch it.
Correct.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:09 am to scottydoesntknow
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cheaper it is to make just PURE GAS without all the additives required and ethanol.
I see it all the time now but it is more expensive that ethanol gas.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:12 am to scottydoesntknow
There are gas stations with those options.
Eta: its just a stupid feel good additive.
Eta: its just a stupid feel good additive.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:14 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:14 am to dewster
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Both of our cars get far better fuel economy on fuel with 0% ethanol than on E-10. It's not even close either - it's a 3-4 mpg difference.
This was just more posturing on the "climate change" BS. In reality, the net gain of ethanol for fuel is virtually nil relative to the energy inputs required to grow, harvest, ferment and distill it.
Your extra 3-4 miles turn it into a net negative.
There are lots of hungry people in the world.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:14 am to scottydoesntknow
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP...but im sorry this is an artificial industry and needs to go
frick em - they can grow normal food it's retarded to use suitable farm land to make fake gasoline when we have plenty of oil and real gasoline.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:15 am to scottydoesntknow
Of the corn used to produce this, how much is done by “Big Farm Investment Corp” vs. “6th Gen Family Company”?
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:16 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:18 am to waiting4saturday
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I realize the farmers who supply the corn for ethanol are for the most part GOP...but im sorry this is an artificial industry and needs to go
frick em - they can grow normal food it's retarded to use suitable farm land to make fake gasoline when we have plenty of oil and real gasoline.
Agree. I wish theyd use this land for cattle, because beef just keeps getting more expensive
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:19 am to waiting4saturday
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There are lots of hungry people in the world.
Yep.
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they can grow normal food it's retarded to use suitable farm land to make fake gasoline when we have plenty of oil and real gasoline.
And yep.
Now all you have to do is hold your breath waiting for ANYONE in Washington, D.C. to take the lead on ending this insane wastefulness.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:21 am to rebelrouser
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cheaper it is to make just PURE GAS without all the additives required and ethanol.
I see it all the time now but it is more expensive that ethanol gas.
Because its a supply/demand kind of thing. I wont pretend to know the regulations of stations/pumps but id assume those are there for boats and probably a limited # of pumps can dispense it. Less of it is made and its in high demand
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:22 am to scottydoesntknow
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Agree. I wish theyd use this land for cattle, because beef just keeps getting more expensive
The growers in the midwest control this... It is one of the reasons Iowa holds so much sway... They really need to diversify their crops but good luck getting the GOP to touch the farm subsides... Welfare for farmers is all ethanol is, along with most of the other subsides...
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:23 am to dewster
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If you live in an area with a lot of boats....it's easy to get pure gasoline.
True, but it's much more expensive than the E-10 from the nozzle sitting right next to it. I my mind, if the ethanol is subsidized and has little to no cost to pass on, then there should be a ~10% increase in price from E-10 to make up for the difference in gasoline. The pumps around my house with both will mark up no ethanol about 60 - 75 cents a gallon.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:27 am to scottydoesntknow
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Agree. I wish theyd use this land for cattle, because beef just keeps getting more expensive
Cook your pork loin to 135 degees at center and fuhgeddaboudit!! Melts in your mouth like butter.
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