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Better to pay cash, finance or lease a new car now?

Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:08 pm
Given current rates. Is it always better to pay cash if you can comfortably afford it?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Given current rates. Is it always better to pay cash if you can comfortably afford it?



You think the market is going to increase by less than 7 or 8% annually under Trump?
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:14 pm to
always pay cash for a depreciating asset if you can afford it
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:26 pm to
Depends on what rate you can get. I recently qualified for 3.75% w zero down through Ft Liberty FCU. They offer 3.49% w large down payment. I'm not paying cash that I'll keep invested when rates are available below 7%.

You may get better deal w dealer financing than cash or outside financing. We took crappy dealer loan and refi'd it w credit union.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:35 pm to
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I recently qualified for 3.75% w zero down through Ft Liberty FCU. They offer 3.49% w large down payment. I'm not paying cash that I'll keep invested when rates are available below 7%.
on one hand you COULD make more money invested than you are spending in interest, but on the other hand you KNOW you are spending more on the car than you would have otherwise. its a risk that you dont necessarily have to take if you have the unencumbered cash

it will depreciate either way
Posted by Pendulum
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:16 pm to
I usually say cash is king, ill pay a % or 2 over risk free rate to hold cash which can be invested.
The car is depreciating no matter how you pay for it, and if you have the cash to ask this question and the appropriate discipline, you probably don't care if you get caught underwater in some unforseen circumstances.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Rize
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:20 pm to
I typically always carry a balance for a little while vs paying straight cash. Sometimes it’s 90 days and sometimes it’s almost 3 years depending on the rate.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:20 pm to
Yes there is risk to consider. I'm willing to take the risk. Over many years, I am confident my capital will most likely outperform <7% loan interest rates but I can afford to lose that bet.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:04 pm to
it depends on the rate.

At standard rates of about 6-7%, I’m paying cash.

If a manufacturer subsidized rate of 3.5% or lower is available, financing is a no brainer.
Posted by bawlin
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:29 pm to
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always pay cash for a depreciating asset if you can afford it

If you can comfortably afford it why does it matter that it’s depreciating?

The only reason the depreciating part matters is you can end up upside down on a loan. But if you can cover that then it’s not a big deal.

With today’s rates though, I’m probably paying cash.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:02 pm to
Wife got a 1.9% on a used car a couple months ago.

I didn't even know those rates were available these days.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:45 pm to
i would not finance shite if you get locked into the interest owed regardless of early payoff like a precomputed interest loan. get a simple interest loan and payoff early.
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:45 pm to
I got 0.9% on a 3 year new car loan last summer. Paying cash in that scenario would be stupid
Posted by achenator
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:16 pm to
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i would not finance shite if you get locked into the interest owed regardless of early payoff like a precomputed interest loan. get a simple interest loan and payoff early.


I didn't know that was even a thing these days.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:22 pm to
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i would not finance shite if you get locked into the interest owed regardless of early payoff like a precomputed interest loan. get a simple interest loan and payoff early.



Are there any mainstream retails loans structured this way?


I see it on seller financing deals, but not normal consumer loans through a traditional lender.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:24 pm to
Have a side reliable car. Lease everything else
Posted by armsdealer
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:24 pm to
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Wife got a 1.9% on a used car a couple months ago.

I didn't even know those rates were available these days.


Where!

Lowest I am seeing is sub 5% for 24 months on used. I am not buying new, its insanity right now, but have been looking. I was just going to do something for 12-15k cash, but if I can get a decent rate used I would get something newer, nicer. Surprising I have found some nice cars in the 12-15k range, but a lil more opens up more options.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:41 am to
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Where!


That was through the dealer. We did some loans online before she set out that were higher and were consistent with what I was expecting, so it was a surprise to me.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:59 am to
If you can get a very low interest rate, financing is better and keep the cash in a HYSA/invested.

We got 1.49%/36mo on wife's '22 MDX this past summer. The savings that would have paid that car off easily is making us 4.25% still. If you can make the spread, might as well make the spread.

Unless you get some leashackr deal, I wouldnt tend to lease anything with an gas engine. It's almost always going to be the most expensive way to have a vehicle.

Electric is very different as they get the $7,500 rebate applied to the lease and it makes a lot of them very reasonable. Like $300-$500/mo with no down payment for a $40k-$50k vehicle in a lot of cases.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:02 am
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