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Did Trump really lose the 2020 election

Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15945 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:55 pm
The MSM is trying so hard to make this question a big deal. Like it’s some sort of “gotcha” question. It’s not.
They ask Vance, and just about every other Republican they can find the same question or some version of it-

“Do you believe that Donald Trump really lost the 2020 election?”

Some people seem to have trouble answering it. The answer seems fairly straightforward.

Why not simply state that you have some questions about it. There was an appearance of impropriety with mail in ballots. Some precincts were unusually late reporting . The inability to monitor was a problem…
For these reasons and others, I question the results and believe there is a need for some stricter regulations. Voter Id is critical. Mail in ballots are too widely used. So yes- I question the results.
Biden got sworn in so it’s a moot point now but yes, I have some questions. We need more accountability in our election system.

This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:56 pm to
Q knows!! I wonder why know one will ask why Hilary still believes she won in 2016.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17416 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:57 pm to
I don’t believe so.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8673 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Did Trump really lose the 2020 election


No.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4208 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:58 pm to
They used COVID to push mail in ballots which gave them plenty of room for fraud.

People who actually showed up to the polls and voted for real voted overwhelmingly Trump.

Random pieces of paper that came from god knows where constituted the vast majority of Biden's "votes"
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9269 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:00 pm to
Nope

And it’s reinforced by anytime someone questions it and how over the top they are with those who protested the stolen election on Jan 6, the worst and deadliest day in the history of the country
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79890 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:00 pm to
We don't know and because the election systems are not generally transparent and auditable there is no way to find out.


With an in person paper ballot system the results could be tested and retested multiple times and get the same results every time.

The results of that system would be acceptable to all even if their candidate didn't win.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27350 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

“Do you believe that Donald Trump really lost the 2020 election?”


There's always cheating in any half-sized election. U.S. Congress, Governor, etc., and especially President.

Was the cheating in 2020 enough that the cheating alone won the Presidency for Biden? frick if I know.

Hell, with close to 50% of Americans paying no federal income tax and having exponentially more drop boxes and laxed voting by mail rules because "COVID safety", Democrats might not have needed to cheat other than Democrat Secretaries of State in swing states unilaterally changing the voting rules.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump was no longer President after January 20, 2021. So yeah, he lost. He sure as hell didn't win.

Hopefully he does this November.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19073 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
Because they focus group tested God knows who and saying that the 2020 election was rigged must have turned negative for independents, suburban moms, or whoever. This is why they keep bringing it up along with Jan 6th.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24479 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
He may not have won the popular vote straight up, but I think he legit won Arizona and Georgia. I then think the establishment Republicans sold him down the river and without enough support, his chances to prove it eventually diminished.

It was a poison pill the GOP swallowed that while it may have kept Trump out of the White House, it also threw the party into such disarray that it may never come back from the edge. And honestly I don't think it deserves to - at least in it's current state.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27350 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Because they focus group tested God knows who and saying that the 2020 election was rigged must have turned negative for independents, suburban moms, or whoever. This is why they keep bringing it up along with Jan 6th.


Bingo.

Whatever data they have shows that certain voters, and I'm sure they've concentrated on those that would help keep swing states in the D corner, are turned off by the pushing of the notion that the 2020 Election was rigged.

Dedicated Trump supporters can say all day long the data and circumstances shows it was rigged. It doesn't matter. The media wouldn't keep asking that line if whatever info data points they have, skewed or not, showed that line "rigged election" to be a winning issue for Trump/Vance with the "swing" voters they need to win the election.

There is a reason they keep asking it over and over again.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3158 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:10 pm to
NO
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7030 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:13 pm to
The statistical norms that were defied are beyond believable.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6191 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Why not simply state that you have some questions about it. There was an appearance of impropriety with mail in ballots. Some precincts were unusually late reporting . The inability to monitor was a problem… For these reasons and others, I question the results and believe there is a need for some stricter regulations. Voter Id is critical. Mail in ballots are too widely used. So yes- I question the results. Biden got sworn in so it’s a moot point now but yes, I have some questions. We need more accountability in our election system.


Trump can’t do it because it requires something that he doesn’t have.

His sycophants won’t do it because they won’t dare risk being seen as going against the dear leader.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13902 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:23 pm to
I don't know since Dems muddied the waters to the point that you can't tell heads from tails.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12562 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:25 pm to
A more appropriate question to ask yourself is if you honestly believe 81 Million people voted for Biden. If you shrug that off and say “absolutely” then you clearly dont believe any shennanigans happened
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:25 pm to
Biden got more votes and the country lost.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

His sycophants won’t do it because they won’t dare risk being seen as going against the dear leader.


And you dumb figs on the left can’t admit that there were all kinds of post election shenanigans in counting the votes. Don’t pretend you hold some sort of intellectual or moral high ground. You don’t.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4621 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:28 pm to
I have yet seen anyone make a plausible explanation of how pre-vote stoppage, Trump was winning and the numbers were consistently matched on the graph. Then, after counting resumes, 138,000 Biden votes, all for Biden, come in to push him ahead of Trump.

It's not statistically possible.

COVID was the only thing that made it possible, and for The Law to illegally be ignored.

We know know that Mike Pence was the only avenue to have the 5 States examined. He had Legal authority to send them back to their State Legislatures for forensic audit, which would have caught the fraud.

Mike Pence, Brad Raffensperger, and Brian Kemp all stood down and held firm for the RINO's.

Trump won in 2020
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:32 pm to
quote:


The MSM is trying so hard to make this question a big deal. They ask Vance, and just about every other Republican they can find the same question or some version of it-



Because the plan is to keep getting his team to say he won in 2020 then after November 5th say he's disqualified from taking office by the 22nd amendment
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