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After seeing what's happening in Britain...
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:58 pm
...what percent of American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector rather than put a boot on the throat of their neighbors?
This is, of course, assuming the media and establishment will be giving them firm pats on the back for doing so.
Honestly, I can't imagine it'd be more than 5-10%.
People have families to feed, plus with DEI hiring you probably have lots of little Marxists already in place ready to go after whomever the state deems as "far right".
This is, of course, assuming the media and establishment will be giving them firm pats on the back for doing so.
Honestly, I can't imagine it'd be more than 5-10%.
People have families to feed, plus with DEI hiring you probably have lots of little Marxists already in place ready to go after whomever the state deems as "far right".
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:02 pm to Azkiger
Just like military personnel, LEO listen to orders. They'll do as their bosses do.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:04 pm to Sack531
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Just like military personnel, LEO listen to orders. They'll do as their bosses do.
For the most part, yea.
I think you'd see some attrition at beat cop levels especially in more red/rural areas. But they'd just be immediately replaced with "yes men" who follow orders without question.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:06 pm to Azkiger
As with a lot of things. Large city departments would be the first to start shite and would have the most dudes fall in line with blindly kicking doors.
Small towns and less populated counties and parishes would be the least likely to follow guidelines they don’t feel are morally justified.
I can’t imagine law enforcement making it halfway across my little shite town without someone burning through their ammo stash.
Small towns and less populated counties and parishes would be the least likely to follow guidelines they don’t feel are morally justified.
I can’t imagine law enforcement making it halfway across my little shite town without someone burning through their ammo stash.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:20 pm to Azkiger
quote:waaay too high.
Honestly, I can't imagine it'd be more than 5-10%.
And history supports my assertion.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:20 pm to Azkiger
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what percent of American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector rather than put a boot on the throat of their neighbors?
Remember Covid, and the unconstitutional laws and regulations and edicts passed, and all the law officers that turned in their badges?
Neither do I.
There would be ZERO officers turning in their badges.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:17 am to Azkiger
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...what percent of American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector rather than put a boot on the throat of their neighbors?
The same percentage that did during the Covid sham.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:23 am to Purple Spoon
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Small towns and less populated counties and parishes would be the least likely to follow guidelines they don’t feel are morally justified
Very much disagree. Dumb hick cops are the first to blindly follow orders. Like the cop in Alabama arresting an elderly woman for feeding cats and the cop in WV arresting a man with no warrant over Facebook posts criticizing the police department.
There was only one cop in the entire nation that publicly opposed covid mandates and told other officers to do the right thing and ignore them. He was fired of course. No, 99% of cops only care about their paycheck. They'd put a bullet in you if Kamala told them to.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:25 am to TigerAxeOK
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replaced with "yes men" who follow orders without question
/\ THIS /\ is the indisputable truth that we are facing today with the decades of importing hostile foreign ideologies into the USA.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:30 am to Azkiger
Our forefathers created the second amendment for reasons such as what we are seeing from Britain today.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:36 am to Azkiger
These lower level cops have children and families.
And they know they can't afford 24/7 security like the rich elites.
And they know they can't afford 24/7 security like the rich elites.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:42 am to Azkiger
None. Zero.
I watched in 2020, the Mandeville police cut benches at the lakefront so that people couldn’t sit by themselves and enjoy the day. I also watched those same officers run families off the lake front for the audacity of having picnic lunches.
Police have no morals or no critical thinking skills. They simply do as they are told. Period.
I watched in 2020, the Mandeville police cut benches at the lakefront so that people couldn’t sit by themselves and enjoy the day. I also watched those same officers run families off the lake front for the audacity of having picnic lunches.
Police have no morals or no critical thinking skills. They simply do as they are told. Period.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:44 am to Tammany Tom
They wouldn’t turn in because they wouldn’t follow orders they would turn in out of fear.
These cops don’t even want to mess with pulling folks over for minor instances in fear of escalation that may not even be present.
Imagine if the threat is present 100% of the time and you are walking into neighborhoods trying to collect firearms.
Good luck.
Everyone is underestimating 400mm guns.
In other societies they didn’t have firearms of this caliber and in mass production as your see in the United States.
No amount of history can prepare you for what you’ve not seen before.
These cops don’t even want to mess with pulling folks over for minor instances in fear of escalation that may not even be present.
Imagine if the threat is present 100% of the time and you are walking into neighborhoods trying to collect firearms.
Good luck.
Everyone is underestimating 400mm guns.
In other societies they didn’t have firearms of this caliber and in mass production as your see in the United States.
No amount of history can prepare you for what you’ve not seen before.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 5:47 am
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:49 am to Azkiger
You could park the cars of the number of deputies in our Parish in a Dollar Store parking lot. That can be a good or bad thing. But in the event of mass and ARMED outrage and revolt it would be the National Guard that responds. And note that in UK there has been no deaths in those raids/arrests. Does anybody think the tolerance and rebellion against Civil LE would remain non-violent if or when the blood of a much respected and good patriot who loves and protects his beloved is shed? I think it takes martyrs to push things to the next level. Martyrs unlike Babbit who was borderline over aggressive but those who are in ther home defending their own. When that happens then both Civil LE and the Military will see a massive mutiny. IMO, both will end up standing in between Haves and Have nots when the goods and services infrastructure goes down like in Katrina. Those who plan to destroy the United States know this and given the massive importation of seasoned warriors and likely military ops, they can pull the same rigger anytime they want if they see a loss coming otherwise. Authoritarian rule is our painful future and it’s just a matter of the form it takes.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:55 am to Azkiger
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American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector
And give up those lavish pensions?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:10 am to Azkiger
In a crisis situation like they are having in the UK...
In medium and especially smaller cities, life would be rough for LE. People would turn on them, refuse to do business with them, and everyone would know where they live. They would have very few friends.
In big cities it would be a mixed bag but in big cities the net result would be that crime surges and the government would be unable to protect the citizens, they lose trust and the citizenry turns on the government.
The government will always over-react to civil disobedience, which sparks violent revolt in small sectors, which prompts more over-reaction. This alienates the population as they are hurt by the crackdowns as well. The government loses support and the opposition grows.
There are about 3.5 LEO's for every 1000 people. If just 1% of the population decides they've had enough, then LE is outnumbered about 3 to 1. They can't win that.
I'm sure all of us probably know at least one person in LE. Would we hurt this person(s)? Of course not. But the guy down the street doesn't know that guy or girl in LE. And that is the problem. If things get sporty, it's going to be bad and everyone will suffer. A surefire way to keep things peaceful is for LE to turn to the government and tell them that they will no longer enforce tyranny - no more covid crap, no gun confiscation, no wars on free speech, no selective prosecution, etc. They don't quit so they can be replaced. They refuse and force the govt to fire them en masse, and in the face of the desire to pursue tyranny, they just refuse to leave the job. Is the mayor and city council going to force each off the job? Not hardly.
LE must know that the People will rally to their defense in such a situation. In smaller cities that can be accomplished. Medium cities, maybe. Bigger cities, not likely.
LE is the rate-limiting or gateway in all of this. If they side with a tyrannical government, we all lose. If they give a tyrannical government the stiff arm, then the ballot box still has a chance to turn things around.
In medium and especially smaller cities, life would be rough for LE. People would turn on them, refuse to do business with them, and everyone would know where they live. They would have very few friends.
In big cities it would be a mixed bag but in big cities the net result would be that crime surges and the government would be unable to protect the citizens, they lose trust and the citizenry turns on the government.
The government will always over-react to civil disobedience, which sparks violent revolt in small sectors, which prompts more over-reaction. This alienates the population as they are hurt by the crackdowns as well. The government loses support and the opposition grows.
There are about 3.5 LEO's for every 1000 people. If just 1% of the population decides they've had enough, then LE is outnumbered about 3 to 1. They can't win that.
I'm sure all of us probably know at least one person in LE. Would we hurt this person(s)? Of course not. But the guy down the street doesn't know that guy or girl in LE. And that is the problem. If things get sporty, it's going to be bad and everyone will suffer. A surefire way to keep things peaceful is for LE to turn to the government and tell them that they will no longer enforce tyranny - no more covid crap, no gun confiscation, no wars on free speech, no selective prosecution, etc. They don't quit so they can be replaced. They refuse and force the govt to fire them en masse, and in the face of the desire to pursue tyranny, they just refuse to leave the job. Is the mayor and city council going to force each off the job? Not hardly.
LE must know that the People will rally to their defense in such a situation. In smaller cities that can be accomplished. Medium cities, maybe. Bigger cities, not likely.
LE is the rate-limiting or gateway in all of this. If they side with a tyrannical government, we all lose. If they give a tyrannical government the stiff arm, then the ballot box still has a chance to turn things around.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:11 am to Azkiger
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what percent of American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector rather than put a boot on the throat of their neighbors?
Did you skip 2020-2022?
Were you in a coma or something?
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 6:12 am
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:17 am to Azkiger
euoropean cops love to beat on their own, the UK police get off on it.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:20 am to SeeeeK
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euoropean cops love to beat on their own, the UK police get off on it.
Canadian cops were the same during the trucker protest. It was a demonstration in the corruption that power enables. Some of them were like sadists.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:25 am to Azkiger
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what percent of American officers do yall think would turn in their badge and look for jobs in the private sector rather than put a boot on the throat of their neighbors?
What people are forgetting is that cops - particularly in large urban areas - are overwhelmingly outnumbered by the citizenry. What they rely on to overcome that is the social contract and the natural respect for the rule of law that comes with that.
When the social contract is broken, that respect vanishes - especially when cops are seen as a factor. If things get bad enough, you’ll see plenty of them break ranks out of sheer survival instinct.
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