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Liberal debates Trumps conviction and is asked what crime he committed

Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:56 am
Posted by RaoulDuke504
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:56 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95809 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:58 am to
That francessca gal is the worst

Imagine having to listen to her ever
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:59 am to
The crime he was convicted of was Falsifying business records in the first degree

LINK to the statute
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28612 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:59 am to
Why don't we ask these idiots about their #1 Hero George Floyd

Biggest piece of shite in the US and the Democrats put up statues of him.

These people are morally bankrupt idiots, all of them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470804 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:00 am to
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That francessca gal is the worst

Imagine having to listen to her ever

She's an idiot if she can't answer this immediately
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11939 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:00 am to
Grrr…he violated NY state campaign finance law to influence the election.
















Trump lost NY to Biden

60.87% to 37.74%







Worst influencer EVER.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:04 am to
I dig it when someone is actually required to back up their drivel, and called out. I would love to see that whole exchange.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:07 am to
The other crime: trust us bro. He did something.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85781 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:11 am to
If I had a dollar for every Democrat I hear who believes with a fierce religiosity in the infallibility of something they are completely ignorant of, I’d be in St Barts on my yacht right now.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:12 am to
They're all idiots, just like you, and all you're liberal mental midget friends
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26633 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:14 am to
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The crime he was convicted of was Falsifying business records in the first degree


And who did he defraud and of what other crime was that alleged fraud committed in furtherance to meet the elements of falsifying business records in the first degree?
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:17 am to
I don’t know but like he was literally convicted 34 times. It’s New York State law! And the judge said so!

That woman was an insult to the rest of the panel.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:17 am to
“I’m no expert.”

Yeah, no shite. This woman is a fricking moron and you didn’t even get to the best part of the interview where she calls UFC fighters “actors”

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Seriously, SF smug Leftists have never spoken to anyone outside of their SF bubble and have never watched a moment of sports. Grade A idiot right there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470804 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:17 am to
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And who did he defraud

That specificity isn't required by the statute for a conviction.

quote:

and of what other crime was that alleged fraud committed in furtherance to meet the elements of falsifying business records in the first degree?

We don't know, and will likely never know.

Now, as I have stated many times, the reason why the above statement is true (the jury instructions/rulings on the issue, specifically the non-unanimity issue) is likely going to lead to the conviction being reversed and sent back down for re-trial.

There are 2 easy options they can focus on though: (1) Cohen's crimes that are a matter of record and (2) NY state tax laws. If they paid me to run the litigation, that's what I'd do.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:25 am
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17931 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:18 am to
Convicted on yes but that jury heard one side piling on statements of that and the defendants side not allowed to fully defend. Charges of falsifying business records would be a misdemeanor normally and payable by a fine. To have Trump personally indicated they would have needed to show proof he knew or directed specifically, I haven’t heard that they actually proved that other than the conviction. You and the rest of the world knows that this whole charade will be overturned and was a stunt
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

The crime he was convicted of was Falsifying business records in the first degree


And what’s the underlying crime? Falsifying business records is misdemeanor and its statute of limitations expired in 2019. Like what did he falsify them for and how did he do it? We still don’t have for that.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:19 am to
Don’t feed the troll.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11939 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

And who did he defraud and of what other crime was that alleged fraud committed in furtherance to meet the elements of falsifying business records in the first degree?



The electorate of the state of NY.









Meanwhile, lost NY 60.87% to 37.74%






Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
55359 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:19 am to
bless her heart, she thinks DJT does his own bookkeeping
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470804 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:20 am to
quote:

To have Trump personally indicated they would have needed to show proof he knew or directed specifically,

I actually skimmed some NY appeals cases yesterday and I do not believe this is required.

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