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Gator Scholarship Program
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:23 am
Saw this commercial with the Gov. talking about state senators who don't want to back this program. Well it takes MFP money and gives it to private schools and if they get kicked out the money doesn't follow the kids. That is public money it should stay with the public schools and of course the Puppet Cade Brumley is supporting the Gov. on this. This doesn't sound to ethical to be taking MFP money and giving it to private organizations. Then running a commercial to put pressure on these senators. Something about all of this doesn't seem on the up and up.
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:45 am to elmo 57
Couldn’t disagree more. The public school system has failed us and continues to take our tax money to supplement propping it up. Our tax dollars should follow our children to whichever school option we choose.
If the public school option is better, then they should get funded based on per pupil. However, if there is another alternative, such as a private or Christian school, then the tax dollars need to follow the child’s education cost.
It makes the public school as well as the private school more accountable and forces them to be more efficient and compete for business.
What is so hard to understand about that?
If the public school option is better, then they should get funded based on per pupil. However, if there is another alternative, such as a private or Christian school, then the tax dollars need to follow the child’s education cost.
It makes the public school as well as the private school more accountable and forces them to be more efficient and compete for business.
What is so hard to understand about that?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:27 am to Kreg Jennings
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What is so hard to understand about that?
Public subsidization of private elementary and secondary school education will do to the cost of private school education what guaranteed student loans did to the cost of college education.
Be careful for what you wish.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:30 am to Kreg Jennings
Why does it cost more per student at public schools than it does at private schools?
Look at your county/parish school board budget. Divide it by the number of students attending the schools within that county/parish. Heck, you can even subtract 10 - 20 million for the school buses to adjust the budget.
Look at your county/parish school board budget. Divide it by the number of students attending the schools within that county/parish. Heck, you can even subtract 10 - 20 million for the school buses to adjust the budget.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:39 am to DownSouthJukin
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Be careful for what you wish
This is my position. I have 2 in private school and the more I think this through the less I like the idea.
The 2 private schools we deal with are pushing parents hard to tell our reps to support this.
The money is supposed to go to parents but it's clear the schools are already planning to capture this money via higher tuition and fees.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:01 am to Tiger985
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The money is supposed to go to parents but it's clear the schools are already planning to capture this money via higher tuition and fees.
Also, anyone that takes public money to cover the cost of operation becomes substantially less private. They may have to comply with public standards, disclose the nature of expenditures, provide disability services, etc.
The public schools provide a substantially wider range of educational services than private schools.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:24 am to elmo 57
People of St. George should be able to take their tax money for schools and transfer money to catholic schools' tuitions.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:31 am to Kreg Jennings
quote:Fine, take the $900 you pay annually in taxes that goes to public schools and use it for your 2 kids' tuition. $450 each. Otherwise, it's a government handout.
Our tax dollars should follow our children to whichever school option we choose
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:34 am to TBoy
quote:Exactly. Government money comes with strings attached. Or, more like government money comes with malignant cells that take hold in the institutions in which it invades.
Also, anyone that takes public money to cover the cost of operation becomes substantially less private. They may have to comply with public standards, disclose the nature of expenditures, provide disability services, etc
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:41 am to Timeoday
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Why does it cost more per student at public schools than it does at private schools?
Public schools are required by law to offer tons of expensive services to meet the needs of a small percentage of students that private schools don't have to serve.
Special needs students, behavioral problems that private schools can expel, every kid with an IEP, etc.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 9:44 am to elmo 57
This shite better not pass.
I would think a large section of private school parents (myself included) would be above the income threshold to receive the govt handout and will take the inevitable increase in private tuition squarely up the arse.
I would think a large section of private school parents (myself included) would be above the income threshold to receive the govt handout and will take the inevitable increase in private tuition squarely up the arse.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:00 am to elmo 57
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That is public money it should stay with the public schools
Unless the state is printing money ... Then that is private citizen money being taxed/ allocated to educate private citizens children - for the greater good.
Frankly it's overdue that private citizens be handcuffed to public education. For my taxable life, I will have to support a failing misguided public school system..even when my kids aren't in that school. Why shouldn't I be able use those funds for the best education possible when they are in school?
Btw my kids are home today because the public school that they go to unofficially said stay home, because they are focusing on tests for higher grades...all other students will basically spend the day in the cafeteria watching movies. But then.. The rest of the school year..
The problem is.. That the state "scholarship" ( in FL) has made private school so popular that kids are on wait lists 200+ deep why...in large part, public school teachers have brought this on themselves (granted there are crappy parents being reflected in their kids, but .teacher professionalism is virtually non existent. I hear from my kids about the teachers new tattoos . Teachers wear jeans /yoga pants & t shirts, .have quarter sized holes in their ears. .in two different "meet greet" sessions teachers mentioned " making it up as they go and this is a highly rated public school
And middle school safe spaces for LBTQA_____
Why shouldn't I be able to use my tax dollars to pay for my kid to get out of that? We are wait listed because... The private school was calm, organized and focused
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:04 am to SuperOcean
It’s very easy to put growth caps on tuition for private schools who accept tax dollars. That must be part of the legislation.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:32 am to elmo 57
I think the ESA bill is basically dead. The Senate version was amended so that now they're doing a study, and the House version is now with the Senate.
eta: They kicked the can down the road once it was time to allocate funds.
eta2: There is currently no "income cap" in either bill as it relates to eligibility. Starting with the 3rd year, all students would be eligible regardless of household income. The income brackets are related to how much the parents receive (55% state per pupil expenditure for most, ~$5,500.)
eta: They kicked the can down the road once it was time to allocate funds.
eta2: There is currently no "income cap" in either bill as it relates to eligibility. Starting with the 3rd year, all students would be eligible regardless of household income. The income brackets are related to how much the parents receive (55% state per pupil expenditure for most, ~$5,500.)
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:33 am to SuperOcean
quote:Because your tax dollars to the public school system over ten years wouldn't cover tuition for one kid for even a couple years. Then consider if you had 3 kids and you put them in private school for 12 years, you're collecting a ton of free shite. You want your kids in private school, pay for it yourself. Sacrifice like many in those schools already do.
Why shouldn't I be able to use my tax dollars to pay for my kid to get out of that?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:25 am to bluestem75
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It’s very easy to put growth caps on tuition for private schools who accept tax dollars. That must be part of the legislation.
I agree it wouldn’t be difficult, but do private schools want the legislature or Dept of Ed dictating tuition caps?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:28 am to Jake88
Fine, take the $900 you pay annually in taxes that goes to public schools and use it for your 2 kids' tuition. $450 each. Otherwise, it's a government handout.
This is an idiotic take.
This is an idiotic take.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:32 am to Jake88
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Because your tax dollars to the public school system over ten years wouldn't cover tuition for one kid for even a couple years. Then consider if you had 3 kids and you put them in private school for 12 years, you're collecting a ton of free shite. You want your kids in private school, pay for it yourself. Sacrifice like many in those schools already do.
Where does money for schools come from other than tax revenue in its various forms from individuals.
You could possibly argue that something like oil that is exported but generates tax revenue from those companies isn't born by the state tax payer, but that's not even 100 percent because those taxes are still impacting the marginal barrel price.
This argument you are making is simply economically indefensible.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:32 am to Tiger985
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This is my position. I have 2 in private school and the more I think this through the less I like the idea.
The 2 private schools we deal with are pushing parents hard to tell our reps to support this.
The money is supposed to go to parents but it's clear the schools are already planning to capture this money via higher tuition and fees.
I’ll have 3 in at the same time (one has already started) and we’ve been saving with 529 plans to help. I’d rather feel the pinch slightly than feel it bigly if big brother gets involved.
And like Tboy said, accepting tax dollars (though it is our money) will allow the governments and their regulators to get a foot in the door
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:33 am to bluestem75
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It’s very easy to put growth caps on tuition for private schools who accept tax dollars. That must be part of the legislation.
When has it ever been “easy” to get anything or anyone off the government tit?
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 3:51 pm
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