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re: 12 Year Old Girl with BPD
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:40 am to Leotiger725
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:40 am to Leotiger725
Appears she has conduct behavior disorder .. can’t diagnose someone with a personality disorder until they’re 18… guanfacine er is a med to look into. An adhd med that I use frequently for aggressive impulsive behavior
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:54 am to Leotiger725
I was dating a woman that was very much like your daughter although she didn't like about stuff and wasn't criminal.
But, she would call me during my air shift (m-f 6p-11p) and say stuff like saying she was going to commit suicide and it would frighten me. I got off the air a 11pm but still had to cut spots, cart music and other production.
This could go on until midnight or longer.
But, she would call me during my air shift (m-f 6p-11p) and say stuff like saying she was going to commit suicide and it would frighten me. I got off the air a 11pm but still had to cut spots, cart music and other production.
This could go on until midnight or longer.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:58 am to Leotiger725
I’ve said a prayer for you, your child and your family. I’m sorry that you have this issue and pray for healing and help. God bless.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:21 am to Leotiger725
Without reading all the replies, I watched this last night. I'm so sorry for this and your family. Be sure to get several opinions and options. A misdiagnosis at an early age is easily done. please watch this video. it may open up some learnings for you and your daughter.
BPD Misdiagnosis
BPD Misdiagnosis
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:25 am to Leotiger725
Dayum im sorry man. Some folks are just born with a screw loose. I might lock my door at night
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:54 am to Leotiger725
The problem with BPD is that it can’t be “fixed” with medication. Sure they can mellow them out somewhat but the issues will always reappear because people with BPD are stuck in an emotional loop.
I would research local therapists who have specific work with BPD. I would also get a psychiatrist to determine if drugs might be an option. Sometimes the right cocktail of of drugs can have results, but mainly they don’t work with BPD.
The only thing that seems to “work” is a really good therapist who specializes in cognitive behavioral therapy. A person with BPD has to be made aware that they have this condition, recognize triggers, and have “tools in the toolbox” to work through it with minimal fallout to others.
As parents, I would suggest therapy as it can be a way to learn more about BPD, and how to establish firm boundaries with the BPD child. And also, it’s good to have a place to vent. I would also recommend therapy for any other kids as well. Remember that self care is very important.
BPD is the devil. And I a sorry you’re dealing with this. It’s your child so you have to do what you need to do.
I would research local therapists who have specific work with BPD. I would also get a psychiatrist to determine if drugs might be an option. Sometimes the right cocktail of of drugs can have results, but mainly they don’t work with BPD.
The only thing that seems to “work” is a really good therapist who specializes in cognitive behavioral therapy. A person with BPD has to be made aware that they have this condition, recognize triggers, and have “tools in the toolbox” to work through it with minimal fallout to others.
As parents, I would suggest therapy as it can be a way to learn more about BPD, and how to establish firm boundaries with the BPD child. And also, it’s good to have a place to vent. I would also recommend therapy for any other kids as well. Remember that self care is very important.
BPD is the devil. And I a sorry you’re dealing with this. It’s your child so you have to do what you need to do.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:09 am to Leotiger725
quote:I had a coworker with a similar problem. Younger teen daughter that he described as evil. Ended up getting a divorce because of her and the mother continually making excuses for her ever thought she treated her just as badly as him.
The fact of the matter is you cannot force someone to try and be a decent person if they are hellbent on doing the opposite. I never imagined things would get this bad. I cannot relate at all to her and her behavior, and neither can the rest of my family.
He was drinking one time and told me, “I’ve begun to hate her and I don’t think she can be saved.”
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:14 am to Leotiger725
Congrats on the psychopath
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:22 am to Leotiger725
Are you talking Bipolar or Borderline Personality Disorder (also BPD)??
If the latter? sheesh. You have to take into account the safety of other children in the home first and foremost.
Have you looked into boarding school?
If the latter? sheesh. You have to take into account the safety of other children in the home first and foremost.
Have you looked into boarding school?
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:26 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
OP, it might be helpful to edit BPD to specify Borderline Personality Disorder so there are a bunch of unhelpful replies about bipolar.
Sorry you're going through this, sounds like you've made the right decision committing her. Hope it works out.
Sorry you're going through this, sounds like you've made the right decision committing her. Hope it works out.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:29 am to Leotiger725
I would seriously be googling an exorcist.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:37 am to Leotiger725
We simply couldn't afford that option. Our insurance wasn't going to cover it and we were quoted over $50K/yr. We ended up in a local out patient therapy thing that was helpful, but honestly it wasn't until my son-in-law came into the picture that everything truly changed.
I pray that it works for yall.
I pray that it works for yall.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:37 am to Ten Bears
quote:
The problem with BPD is that it can’t be “fixed” with medication. Sure they can mellow them out somewhat but the issues will always reappear because people with BPD are stuck in an emotional loop.
I would research local therapists who have specific work with BPD. I would also get a psychiatrist to determine if drugs might be an option. Sometimes the right cocktail of of drugs can have results, but mainly they don’t work with BPD.
The only thing that seems to “work” is a really good therapist who specializes in cognitive behavioral therapy. A person with BPD has to be made aware that they have this condition, recognize triggers, and have “tools in the toolbox” to work through it with minimal fallout to others.
As parents, I would suggest therapy as it can be a way to learn more about BPD, and how to establish firm boundaries with the BPD child. And also, it’s good to have a place to vent. I would also recommend therapy for any other kids as well. Remember that self care is very important.
This is sound advice. I've been dealing with a family member with for 50+ years now. It's not easy. It's more a behavioral problem and not a chemical issue.
You have to develop patience like no other. When they have an episode, I've found to keep silent and let them vent and have their moment. be the bigger person and understand no sane person would act out this way. It's not easy especially when you see them hurting others. Pick your moments but never in the middle of them acting out.
The hardest part about Borderline is getting the person to admit they have a problem. The one I know has tried 5 different ones over the course of many years. It never works because they cannot except fault, wrongdoings, misconduct, etc. It's difficult. At the end of the day, it's you that has to change and accept how it is. Once you do that, you will find a little peace.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:38 am to Leotiger725
I worked for a boarding school which specialized in mental health treatment for children under 18. The students went to class to keep up with their studies and attended several group and individual therapy sessions per week under the guide of psychologists and psychiatrists.
I didn’t have anything to do with the therapy side but it appeared to help some of the kids.
You may want to see if there is a similar school in Texas.
I didn’t have anything to do with the therapy side but it appeared to help some of the kids.
You may want to see if there is a similar school in Texas.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:49 am to Leotiger725
Man, while I have no advice to offer I can tell you something to be aware of.
My next door neighbor has a daughter who is bipolar. She is now in her early 50s, but this was about 15-18 years ago. I don't know if she stopped taking her meds or she switched meds or what, but she had a breakdown.
She was taken to a state mental hospital in Baton Rouge and my neighbor and his wife were called to be informed she was there. They went see her every day and after the third or fourth day they noticed she was getting worse. From what he told me, she was unhinged. The doctors told them she was making progress but when they would meet with her there was nothing about her that showed making progress. I don't know how this part all happened, but they were able to have a doctor who didn't work there look at her charts from the hospital. The doctor advised them to go get her out ASAP.
A lot of the meds they were giving her were meds that once you start taking you have to ween yourself off of. Instead, they would give her something and if there was no sign of improvement, they would switch her to something else and within a full 7 day week, they switched her meds 4 different times.
The doctor then gave her lose dosage of the last meds they gave her, she had to ween off of that medicine then prescribed something else that didn't seem to be working so she had to be weened off of that medicine then finally they found what works the best for her.
They had problems with her when she was a teenager. She was diagnosed with BPD and she was taking meds and was able to function. She went to college, had a pretty good job and then I guess the meds she had been on just stopped working and that's when she had the breakdown. So I hope you can find a balance of the right meds for her and hopefully she doesn't stop taking them at some point.
My next door neighbor has a daughter who is bipolar. She is now in her early 50s, but this was about 15-18 years ago. I don't know if she stopped taking her meds or she switched meds or what, but she had a breakdown.
She was taken to a state mental hospital in Baton Rouge and my neighbor and his wife were called to be informed she was there. They went see her every day and after the third or fourth day they noticed she was getting worse. From what he told me, she was unhinged. The doctors told them she was making progress but when they would meet with her there was nothing about her that showed making progress. I don't know how this part all happened, but they were able to have a doctor who didn't work there look at her charts from the hospital. The doctor advised them to go get her out ASAP.
A lot of the meds they were giving her were meds that once you start taking you have to ween yourself off of. Instead, they would give her something and if there was no sign of improvement, they would switch her to something else and within a full 7 day week, they switched her meds 4 different times.
The doctor then gave her lose dosage of the last meds they gave her, she had to ween off of that medicine then prescribed something else that didn't seem to be working so she had to be weened off of that medicine then finally they found what works the best for her.
They had problems with her when she was a teenager. She was diagnosed with BPD and she was taking meds and was able to function. She went to college, had a pretty good job and then I guess the meds she had been on just stopped working and that's when she had the breakdown. So I hope you can find a balance of the right meds for her and hopefully she doesn't stop taking them at some point.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:51 am to Leotiger725
My older sibling had BPD among other mental health issues. Medication, helped keep her relatively stable about 50% of the time. The other 50% was extremely difficult. The raging, the suicide attempts, self mutilation. disappearing for days or weeks going on drug benders, impulsive spending sprees that bankrupted her, terrible toxic relationships, many stays in mental health facilities. She never harmed another person physically though. The one aspect of her life that was surprisingly stable was work and school. She was an excellent student and worker at her jobs which she maintained most of her adult life. She unfortunately passed away a few years ago at age 50 due to drug intoxication. We still dont know if it was accidental or suicide she had been threatening suicide a few weeks earlier.
My parents did everything they could to try to help her. It was essentially a full time job for my mother until she passed away. Be careful not to lose your own mind in this process. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have if it helps.
My parents did everything they could to try to help her. It was essentially a full time job for my mother until she passed away. Be careful not to lose your own mind in this process. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have if it helps.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:02 am to Leotiger725
quote:
I meant Borderline Personality Disorder for the record
It may be worth updating the OP b/c a lot of folks misread it and are still missing it. Two very different things.
Sorry, you are dealing with that. I have a close family member who used to deal with young girls with BPD. That isn't an easy job and I don't envy anyone in that situation.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:07 am to Leotiger725
I’m sure this has been covered over 13 pages but step one should be to remove all smart devices and access to social media
Start there
Start there
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:28 am to Cdawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:49 am to Sam Quint
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