re: When Believe All Women goes wrong. It's just a Girls Trip !

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And that most women in 2024 work and earn a paycheck, so it’s not just his house and his cash, right?

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In 80% of marriages, men are the primary bread winner and tend to work 20+ more hours a week and make around 30% more income. 50/50 is not equal unless they agreed she would work less.

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Add alcohol a sense of freedom without the kids and they become easy to manipulate and often fall for the ween of another man.

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Distance
Alcohol
Attention
Opportunity

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My question is what did the husbands think the point of a "girls" trip was exactly?

OH yeah, my wife and her friends are going to Jamaica and they are going to sit in their room and drink and only talk to one another. Stupid.

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It's an entire subculture where these woman feel like they're overwhelmed with kids, husband, and life in general. These kinds of trips are like being single again. Pretending to be single leads to single lifestyle decisions, like screwing some rando dick.

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If your wife is going with her "friends" on a trip and they are indulging in a bar type atmosphere you are simply not respected as a man or husband. Its really that simple. I will catch blowback for this response but its true.

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I've seen girls groups hanging out by themselves, not looking for anything other than a good time with their girlfriends. But inevitably, dudes see those groups, especially older married chicks, as a challenge. So you still have the formula for cheating in place.

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I've seen girls groups hanging out by themselves, not looking for anything other than a good time with their girlfriends. But inevitably, dudes see those groups, especially older married chicks, as a challenge. So you still have the formula for cheating in place.

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The hypocrisy is what gets me.

Married men dont typically go on "trips" together outside hunting and fishing and maybe gambling. So truly an experience with the dudes. I am not saying other stuff has never happened, I'm just saying the chances are lessened.

Verlassene Kinder

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Maybe, maybe not. I’m saying that there are consequences to a married woman getting divorced. She is, in fact, worse off as a consequence of getting divorced. I’ve never made any comparisons to her pre-married state.

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i mean that's fine, if that's your assertion. yes, she is in a comparably worse position than when she was married. but that's a meaningless metric. she is still in a net better position due to the marriage and divorce, and he is in a net worse position than he was before due to the marriage and divorce.

i agree that there are consequences for a woman getting divorced - emotional, reputational, family, religious aspects, depression, etc. i'm just saying that in regards to material possessions and wealth, things that can be objectively measured, she is going to come out way ahead in the majority of cases.

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this makes me sad that people automatically think this and not adoption

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I generally assume adoption.

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Somehow our society holds the view that all women are capable, independent, and every bit as intelligent as men yet they're never held accountable for any sexual actions they take. It never fails.

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Ever seen that Jack Nicholson flick, as good as it gets?

Receptionist: How do you write women so well?

Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

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you cant just gloss over that "regardless of who is earning what". chances are that she makes way less than him, and in a divorce will come out a net winner. she might be financially worse off after the divorce compared to when they were married, but still way ahead from before she met hi

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Guys have got to stop marrying down.

Maybe thats our problem now. We just dont marry down like we did in the old days.

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Certainly men aren't falling out the sky in our AirBnb in a family neighborhood in Fredericksburg.

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If you mean Fredericksburg, TX was planning to go this weekend and we're staying in a neighborhood home

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i mean that's fine, if that's your assertion. yes, she is in a comparably worse position than when she was married. but that's a meaningless metric.

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How is it a meaningless metric? We’re (or at least I’m) talking about the consequences women suffer from divorcing. You have to be married to get divorced.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, but if you’re trying to say that a divorced woman is financially better off than if she had never been married…then maybe? I would think the unmarried woman is more likely to have an established career and no kids so I’m not sure how you’re reaching this conclusion, but again, that’s not the point I’m making.

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i'm just saying that in regards to material possessions and wealth, things that can be objectively measured, she is going to come out way ahead in the majority of cases.

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I just think this is an odd way to look at it. Or maybe I’m just odd.

When you’re married, all of it is hers. All of it is yours too. When you divorce, you end up with half (or whatever the split is) of what you had previously. Both of you do.

Let’s say there is a house and a 401k under consideration. You both have a home and a retirement account. Now you divorce. One of you takes the house, one of you takes the 401k. The first person has to build a new retirement account and the second person has to get a new house. You’re both worse off.