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Apple losing ground to China in cell phones
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:24 pm
Sure a lot of you don’t love Apple because it’s a California company, but they are down a lot in china (and asia in general). If they continue to lose ground, it could be said that the largest companies in the world may no longer be American but rather Chinese or Indian. We need to protect our IP from these Asian companies which steal without remorse imo. If these companies had to spend as much on R&D then they couldn’t compete.
I think Chinese government is subsidizing to reduce American influence
I think Chinese government is subsidizing to reduce American influence
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:27 pm to fareplay
You do know Apple does a lot of their development work overseas, right?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:28 pm to fareplay
Iphones are made in China.
Samsung are mostly made in vietnam.
Samsung are mostly made in vietnam.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:29 pm to fareplay
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it could be said that the largest companies in the world may no longer be American but rather Chinese or Indian.
O rly?
The largest Chinese company has a market cap of $370B, before their economic collapse.
The US has 16 companies larger, with our largest being over $3T.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:31 pm to fareplay
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think Chinese government is subsidizing to reduce American influence
You think?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:49 pm to fareplay
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We need to protect our IP from these Asian companies which steal without remorse imo.
Or play the game equally or more dirty than they do. We should be infiltrating their society as much as they are infiltrating and sadly shaping and molding ours.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:51 pm to fareplay
Other countries look out for their own interests. It's laudable.
We should try it here.
We should try it here.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:51 pm to dnm3305
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Or play the game equally or more dirty than they do. We should be infiltrating their society as much as they are infiltrating and sadly shaping and molding ours.
What technological advancement has China made since gunpowder? Honestly I’m asking. Does China develop anything these days or do they simply steal the advances and mass produce them more cheaply?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:53 pm to Oilfieldbiology
I guess you can say manufacturing efficiency
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:55 pm to fareplay
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I guess you can say manufacturing efficiency
Any evidence that they're more efficient than anyone else?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:57 pm to fareplay
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I guess you can say manufacturing efficiency
That would be Japan though, right? Japan is known for the development of Kaizen strategy and Motorola developed 6 sigma, so maybe American as well? I think China employs it, but I’m not sure they created/developed it.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:00 pm to NATidefan
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Iphones are made in China.
Apple is diversifying their manufacturing a bit. They are manufacturing the iPhone 15 and 15 plus in India.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
I don’t think our textbooks are keen on showing Chinese metrics
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:04 pm to fareplay
I used to have concern about buying knock off and off brand copy cat products, but not anymore. Every company using China manufacturing has full knowledge their product is going to be copied and sold for lower prices in discount retailers. They brought this up on themselves and they have not stopped using China still today so screw them.
Amazon is almost nothing but knockoff of me brands and I see no complaints from the brand names.
Amazon is almost nothing but knockoff of me brands and I see no complaints from the brand names.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:10 pm to fwtex
I’d argue if they didn’t use China they would have lost the battle earlier.
The issue is China doesn’t respect intelligence property
The issue is China doesn’t respect intelligence property
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:44 pm to Oilfieldbiology
W. Edwards Deming taught Japan how to manufacture quality products .
Kaizen is just a continuouation of that.
6 Sigma, good lord. Thank Jack fot that...
Kaizen is just a continuouation of that.
6 Sigma, good lord. Thank Jack fot that...
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:12 pm to fareplay
You are clueless.
Xiaomi and Oppo/Oneplus make great phones. Oneplus works with Leica and Xiaomi works with Hassenblade on their cameras for example. Innovation wise, they are ahead of Apple. .
If anything, Apple will copy them in five years.
Xiaomi and Oppo/Oneplus make great phones. Oneplus works with Leica and Xiaomi works with Hassenblade on their cameras for example. Innovation wise, they are ahead of Apple. .
If anything, Apple will copy them in five years.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:18 pm to fareplay
We should have invested into cheap labor in Central and South America. Not communist China. That was just stupid.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:26 pm to fareplay
well the Chinese Communist Party is absolutely subsidizing the hell out of all kinds of industry over there
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:29 pm to prplhze2000
Or Apple could just buy Leica which now that I think about it I'm puzzled why they haven't already.
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