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Somebody please explain Landry's "school choice" plan to me like I'm 5.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:42 pm
Every kid in Louisiana now gets private school tuition paid for by the state, regardless of family income?
And this will cost the state $250 million by the third year?
Surely you cannot be serious.
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/louisiana-education-savings-accounts-pay-parents-to-send-kids-to-private-schools/289-1247a9eb-ffd9-4b25-baf8-db03386235e4
ETA: The House is debating this budgetary leviathan as I type this.
And this will cost the state $250 million by the third year?
Surely you cannot be serious.
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/louisiana-education-savings-accounts-pay-parents-to-send-kids-to-private-schools/289-1247a9eb-ffd9-4b25-baf8-db03386235e4
ETA: The House is debating this budgetary leviathan as I type this.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm to Slippy
It will turn out exactly like the TOPS program. Someone will make lots of money.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm to Slippy
The citizens of Louisiana continue to elect shitty officials into office, then are surprised when these officials frick shite up. News at 11.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:46 pm to Slippy
Sounds like this is just going to make private schools up their tuition even more than they already do.
Huge cost to the state funds and skyrocketed tuition? Great.. /s
Huge cost to the state funds and skyrocketed tuition? Great.. /s
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:48 pm to Slippy
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regardless of family income
No, there are income limits
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:49 pm to Slippy
It's not just for tuition. The accounts will be entirely controlled by the parents/guardians and can be used for pretty much anything learning based.
$250 million is the low end. Upper estimates are $500 million. Every non-public school student will get ~$5k regardless of family income.
I still think they will pass it, only partially fund it and it will be a massive shitstorm in 3 years. Throw in the probability that this will likely take away funding from public schools and private schools will raise tuition to match.
Eta: I didn't see any income limits when reading through the bill. Just a >250% of poverty level gets 55% of the state/district per student funding ($5k).
$250 million is the low end. Upper estimates are $500 million. Every non-public school student will get ~$5k regardless of family income.
I still think they will pass it, only partially fund it and it will be a massive shitstorm in 3 years. Throw in the probability that this will likely take away funding from public schools and private schools will raise tuition to match.
Eta: I didn't see any income limits when reading through the bill. Just a >250% of poverty level gets 55% of the state/district per student funding ($5k).
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:50 pm to Slippy
In theory it's a good idea to have funding tied to where the child go. In practice, this seems to be an awful way of handling the situation.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:52 pm to Slippy
It's a lazy way to subsidize private school since the state can't get it's shite together to educate children properly.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:53 pm to Slippy
Executive Summary (like you're 5)
I think Jefe just needs to stick to the current voucher program we have and fund it more in order to close the gap in requests not being granted due to funding limits.
The GATOR scholarship, if passed, is going to drive costs up for everyone.
I think Jefe just needs to stick to the current voucher program we have and fund it more in order to close the gap in requests not being granted due to funding limits.
The GATOR scholarship, if passed, is going to drive costs up for everyone.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:53 pm to Slippy
I don't know 100%, but essentially what it seems like other states do, is that each student is granted a certain percentage of what the state spends per child for public education in an account. The child/parents can use that money for private school, or if the child goes to a public school the money would go to the public school. This should in theory reduce the amount of money given to each public school, because they should only be able to run the school based upon the amount of children attending the school, but I'm not sure if that's how it's going to work. Other states also don't have an income limit, but you know Louisiana has to give more to the poors 
My questions lie with how this is going to impact private schools. Do the schools have to opt into this program? If they do, is there any sort of oversight/control that the state has over their admissions standards? The article refers to parents having to opt into this program, what's the point of that? Why would someone choose not to opt into "free" money to go towards educational expenses? If this state wasn't so stupid and corrupt, I think this program could be a good thing, but I think it's going to end up being a shitshow.
My questions lie with how this is going to impact private schools. Do the schools have to opt into this program? If they do, is there any sort of oversight/control that the state has over their admissions standards? The article refers to parents having to opt into this program, what's the point of that? Why would someone choose not to opt into "free" money to go towards educational expenses? If this state wasn't so stupid and corrupt, I think this program could be a good thing, but I think it's going to end up being a shitshow.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:54 pm to Slippy
Louisiana 
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:01 pm to Slippy
But sending my kids to private school is how I keep them away from the poors.. Are you telling me the poors are going to be in my child's private school??
Not much private about that!!!
Not much private about that!!!
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:09 pm to Slippy
This was in the tea leaves. John Kennedy wrote an op-ed about something similar this some months ago. Basically the money goes with the kid anywhere they want to go - public or private.
I'm not really sure what to think of it but the current public school system in Louisiana is keeping the status quo and that status quo is not good.
I'm not really sure what to think of it but the current public school system in Louisiana is keeping the status quo and that status quo is not good.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:09 pm to Slippy
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"school choice"
Good rule of thumb for any legislation at any level of government is, the more innocuous the name sounds, the shittier it actually is.
For example: The Patriot Act
“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” - George Orwell
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:14 pm to Slippy
Well, rt now i pay for schools and have zero choice.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:21 pm to Slippy
Why are yall acting like LA is the first and only state to pass school choice. They would be the 13th with multiple more to come in the next year or two and this has been going on for 5 years
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:24 pm to Slippy
How is the state going to address the fiscal cliff of the .45% tax that is rolling off next year with additional spending like this and the likelihood of the state looking to eliminate the state income tax?
Jeff and the boys and girls in Baton Rouge have some explaining to do. We might have a billion-dollar shortfall again.
Jeff and the boys and girls in Baton Rouge have some explaining to do. We might have a billion-dollar shortfall again.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:30 pm to Slippy
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And this will cost the state $250 million by the third year?]
If the sales tax is not renewed that will mean about a $400 million reduction to the state treasury. Not sure how this will be paid for
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:32 pm to Slippy
So no more split then?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:36 pm to Slippy
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Somebody please explain Landry's "school choice" plan to me like I'm 5.
I think it's basically gonna go like this:
1. Public school systems in any marginally large sized city in Louisiana are absolutely fricked.
2. People have to send their kids to private school and pay tuition out the a-hole unless you want to just watch them get their asses beat on WorldStar videos on twitter.
3. We elect bad politicians who don't know what their doing, but know how to chase votes. So they come up with pie-in-the-sky plans that can't really be funded worth a shite for any moderate amount of time.
4. This bill will pass because private school parents are like "Finally, I can stop feeling like I'm being fleeced, paying taxes for a terrible public school system I don't use..."
5. Private schools will double their tuition costs overnight.
6. Private school parents will be like "MOTHERfrickER!!!"
7. The state will end up not being able to fund the plan for more than a few years because we're broke and the legislature is inept.
8. The program will whither and die, and be replaced by something shittier because we've now robbed peter to pay paul.
9. The funds will dry up.
10. Private schools will never go back to previous tuition levels.
11. I will hopefully have left Louisiana decades from whenever this point occurs.
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