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re: The ‘growing crisis of the young American male’ could send home prices falling for years

Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:45 am to
Posted by zadams_318
McKinney, TX
Member since Aug 2019
470 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:45 am to
As an unmarried 26 year old male, I'm not living at home but I'm also not a homeowner. Young men aren't living at home, they are just renting someone else's house or in an apartment. I make a decent salary for a young adult, and there's no way I would buy a 1700 sqft house for $400,000 like the market is forcing buyers to do today. Young men being smart with their money isn't a crisis. The value of the dollar falling by 31% over the last decade and a 6% federal interest rate is the crisis.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2022
4779 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:47 am to
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Housing prices shot up way too high compared to average salary, there really isn't anyway it can stay high if people can't afford it. It will always have to bend back to what people can afford or companies/people that own houses will just hold onto houses, paying bills, and getting nothing for it.

you are assuming that we are still living in a normal, capitalist country in which supply and demand follows basic principles. we now live in an america where if someone cant afford a house, they are being oppressed. or if they arent able to pay their note, they are being oppressed. also, who's to say they wont just do the same thing that the auto industry has done, which is just offer ridiculous financing stretched out over a zillion years so that every fricking moron making $25k a year can buy a brand new F-250?

we live in clown world now, where up is down and down is up. i have zero confidence that the housing market will self-regulate back to a more normal status. the federal government nanny state is just itching to start offering "home loan forgiveness" so buy more votes.


Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:48 am to
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Do we have tens of thousands of incels just playing video games all day?


Tens of millions***
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7855 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:48 am to
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Needs to happen. Some of these houses aren't worth a fraction what they're listed for.


Well we will see I guess. Where I am, there is no let up in demand or prices, at least in the desirable parts of town.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
524 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:49 am to
Dreamers are trying to be streamers
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12636 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:53 am to
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Do we have tens of thousands of incels just playing video games all day?

Poliboard makes a lot more sense now.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17062 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:55 am to
Gonna have some people seriously in their feelings when the house they bought during Covid doesn’t appraise for anything close to what they bought it for
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71382 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:56 am to
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Why should they pay the exorbitant prices for a home? My sons can stick around along as they're pulling their own weight.


Yep.

Makes more sense than buying a house for one person.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4291 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:56 am to
Look what yall did to these dudes.

Cucked them up big time!!
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9649 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:59 am to
You don't have to spend $400k to not live with mommy and daddy.

Or you can say "damn this sucks I'm 18 and living at home" like I did and joined the military.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4291 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:00 am to
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Gonna have some people seriously in their feelings when the house they bought during Covid doesn’t appraise for anything close to what they bought it for


100% agreed.

I find it fascinating when I see people in their 50s buying a home. I guess their kids will not inherit anything.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:02 am to
Once again, it’s the economy driving this, not some social revolution. People often mistake the effect for the cause.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7855 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:04 am to
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Gonna have some people seriously in their feelings when the house they bought during Covid doesn’t appraise for anything close to what they bought it for


Could be true for people that speculated, went the AirBnB route, etc. But mostly, buyers during Covid locked in extremely low rates and have already seen big increases in home values. I was in the market in 2020, and based on what I was looking at, prices are a lot higher now.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9649 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:04 am to
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I find it fascinating when I see people in their 50s buying a home. I guess their kids will not inherit anything.



That right there is the entitlement mindset that is preventing the rugged individualism that defines being a man.

Young people basically in a holding pattern waiting for relatives to die off so they can actually own something.

fricking pathetic.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22532 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:05 am to
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I was in the market in 2020, and based on what I was looking at, prices are a lot higher now


It’s very likely that prices will be considerably higher in 2028 than they are in 2024, especially if rates are lower.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13661 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:06 am to
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If so many young men are single, how are there not just about the same number of single women?


There are. But, as the article notes, single men are more likely to live at home while single women are more likely to buy their own house. Thus, single women would not have a significant impact on housing price decline.

This is sort of comical. We have massively under built homes since 2008. 20% of males living at home is not going to cause a decade long significant housing price decline.She is just making stuff up to point out males are living at home longer, which is known by everyone. It allows these men to save money, and therefore be able to afford a home at a young age even when single. Her hypothesis is unsupportable and will be proven wrong.

She was right about CITI needing to cut their dividend right before the banking crisis, but given credit for predicting the whole thing. She has been wrong about a lot since, including predicting $100s of billions in municipal defaults that never occurred.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:06 am to
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find it fascinating when I see people in their 50s buying a home. I guess their kids will not inherit anything.



Imagine needing your family to die to own something of your own.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17163 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:08 am to
The biggest growing demographic in America is single childless males aged 25-35 living with their parents

Its called the ‘Incel Boom’ and national marketers are already targeting them
Posted by Commandeaux
Zachary
Member since Jul 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:10 am to
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Do we have tens of thousands of incels just playing video games all day?


The elephant in the room is the white male suicide /overdose rate that's skyrocketing. This is what's contributing a lot to the family formation stats.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:10 am to
There are fewer competent males, so those competent males get the girls and houses.

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