re: The ‘growing crisis of the young American male’ could send home prices falling for years

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True, but they have no problem dating a married guy living with his wife and kids…



It's obviously wrong and fricked up.

But they're searching for men that have autonomy and their own shite. The men their age are living with mommy and daddy.

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bullshite. Girls have a type until that type can't support their age/ looks/ lifestyle.

The issues is that we are now openly glorifying these lifestyles and actions. "Well if you don't do this for me then someone else will"

The power funnel from abortion, child support, only fans just fuels this.

Its really no different than taxes. One side busts arse with no expectation and the other side gets coddled with all the benefits.

There is no longer a give and a take. There's no compromise. They have all the "options".

Modern girls don't think "well I really like option A but we would have to grow together or compromise" They just immediately go to option B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J you get the point.

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But they're searching for men that have autonomy and their own shite

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That's awesome man and I'm looking for a woman that isn't going to ask about my income or to raise her kids on the first date. Guess its a stalemate. What "benefit" is that to me? Stress? More responsibility? And they expect it???

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That right there is the entitlement mindset that is preventing the rugged individualism that defines being a man.

Young people basically in a holding pattern waiting for relatives to die off so they can actually own something.

fricking pathetic.

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Buying a house that late unless its in cash is irresponsible, sorry.

A man clears his debt

A man leaves behind two lifetimes for his children even if he has to sacrifice more than everyone else combined.

Also, I am not young.

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Weak Men like you have kids and teach them to be pathetic like this. I absolutely do blame men “dropping out”.

It’s a disgrace

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I don't agree with living with mom and dad for your whole life, but theres nothing wrong with a man saying "I will not partake" in something where no matter what he chooses within that system he will not benefit.

You don't know anything about me other than the fact that I can understand the plight of a younger generation.. something worthless boomers like yourself have struggled with for decades.

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Imagine needing your family to die to own something of your ow

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If they didnt pay in cash they dont own shite which means whoever gets it next doesnt own shite either.

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The elephant in the room is the white male suicide /overdose rate that's skyrocketing. This is what's contributing a lot to the family formation stats.

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Dont do drugs.

Go to school.

Dont drink alcohol excessively.

Work hard


So easy to be succesful. So fricking easy. Everyone makes it hard.

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But they're searching for men that have autonomy and their own shite. The men their age are living with mommy and daddy.

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I'm going to respond to this in good faith.

You're proving your own point without realizing it. Men, the kind you want your daughters to marry, are being squeezed like boa constrictors. They are discouraged from university, they are discouraged from corporate life, and they are legally discriminated against at every possible turn for employment."Learn to code" will be utterly destroyed by the rise of AI, and isn't a good fit for most people.

So, you have men whose employment options are based around manual labor- working on cars, HVAC, electrical work, handymen, etc. But, women in your daughters' age group have been overly educated and socially conditioned to think of those men as "beneath them," because women see men as success objects, and men couldn't give a shite less what a woman does so long as it's moral and she's under 200 lbs on the hoof. As a result, women would rather share one high-value man (which are becoming rarer and rarer) than marry a plumber who makes 100k.

I see stuff like this with men ages 25-35 all the time. They're struggling like hell to get out of "the basement," but there's no reward waiting for them. No women to marry. At best, they get to be a stepdad.

Society is functionally breaking down, and blaming it all on the men who are the biggest victims of its collapse is a cruel joke.

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So easy to be succesful.

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define “success” because you need more than that these days

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The only way I can believe this is that these single women are getting mom and dad to buy them a house. Otherwise I think we as men need to fight for equality because the gender pay gap is clearly hurting us.

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Moms and Dads are much nicer to their daughters when it comes to money.

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Dont do drugs.

Go to school.

Dont drink alcohol excessively.

Work hard


So easy to be succesful. So fricking easy. Everyone makes it hard.

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certainly the four steps you have listed are good advice for anyone in any scenario, but this is not the formula for success that it was in the not so distant past. you can live by these rules and still have major struggles in 2024 America.

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Lastly (and the OT is going to HATE me for this take) there are to many rich people who buy up homes to rent them out for passive income

i'm genuinely curious how much of an impact this has had. this seems to be one of the biggest "wE hAtE tHe bOoMeRs" complaints, but the boomers have been doing this for decades at this point, and it is only recently that this has become such a big complaint. plus i dont think a retiree who has a few properties he uses for side income should be considered "rich people buying up homes" (but in fairness, this might not be what you are referring to)

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Hopefully they didnt get to crazy buying up property during covid. Could be in a for a valuation surprise.