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What do you value more in employees?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:52 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:52 am
For a company with less than 10 employees, I've noticed there are two different types that I've dealt with.
One is exceptionally loyal to you & the company, but doesn't work to their highest potential. No amount of rewards or ego boosts can move the above what they produce. You're constantly having to double check their work. They'll never be able to do the big job, but you know you can count on them when you need smaller jobs done.
The other type is highly motivated and competent. There's never a problem with their work. The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves. And then they leave with the years of training your provided them. You're left having to find someone new and then train them all over again.
Edit: My personal opinion is the loyal employee you know you can count on, but have to accept the are limits to what they can do. The only drawback is it can be very inefficient having to double check work that you shouldn't have to double check.
One is exceptionally loyal to you & the company, but doesn't work to their highest potential. No amount of rewards or ego boosts can move the above what they produce. You're constantly having to double check their work. They'll never be able to do the big job, but you know you can count on them when you need smaller jobs done.
The other type is highly motivated and competent. There's never a problem with their work. The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves. And then they leave with the years of training your provided them. You're left having to find someone new and then train them all over again.
Edit: My personal opinion is the loyal employee you know you can count on, but have to accept the are limits to what they can do. The only drawback is it can be very inefficient having to double check work that you shouldn't have to double check.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 7:05 am
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:53 am to Rex Feral
Is this a marathon or a sprint?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:53 am to Rex Feral
The one that comes to work.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:56 am to Rex Feral
The one that wants to be there.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:58 am to Rex Feral
30 years ago it was the ability to self start and problem solve.
Now, I am just happy if they dont pick their nose in front of clientele.
Now, I am just happy if they dont pick their nose in front of clientele.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:02 am to Rex Feral
Anybody worth a shite is doing themselves a disservice if they’re not constantly looking for their next move. The days of 20+ years to a single organization are over.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:02 am to Rex Feral
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The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves.
Sounds like a good way to grow your company. Get them to stay with incentives.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:05 am to Rex Feral
Who shows up everyday???... that's the valued employee
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:19 am to Rex Feral
quote:
For a company with less than 10 employees, I've noticed there are two different types that I've dealt with.
One is exceptionally loyal to you & the company, but doesn't work to their highest potential. No amount of rewards or ego boosts can move the above what they produce. You're constantly having to double check their work. They'll never be able to do the big job, but you know you can count on them when you need smaller jobs done.
The other type is highly motivated and competent. There's never a problem with their work. The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves. And then they leave with the years of training your provided them. You're left having to find someone new and then train them all over again.
Edit: My personal opinion is the loyal employee you know you can count on, but have to accept the are limits to what they can do. The only drawback is it can be very inefficient having to double check work that you shouldn't have to double check.
The answer is you must have a healthy balance of each. However understand most of the highly motivated and competent ones are leaving because of the exceptionally loyal, but doesn't work to their highest potential ones.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:25 am to Rex Feral
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For a company with less than 10 employees
My experience is that you typically get 3 to 4 loyal employees who have less potential and 5 to 6 employees who come in and get trained and leave after 3 to 4 years.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:29 am to Rex Feral
Sounds like you need both and will just have to take the good with the bad.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:33 am to Rex Feral
Depending on the type of business and some other factors, those who are loyal are probably loyal for a reason. they don't have much to offer on the free market.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:39 am to Rex Feral
The guys who work for me are all field reps covering territories from north Alabama to the Florida panhandle. I only see them face to face on rare occasions, though we hold a Teams call once every two weeks and communicate via text, email, or phone call almost daily.
The characteristics I look for are:
1. Competent
2. Motivated self-starter
3. Reliable
4. Strong teamwork
The characteristics I look for are:
1. Competent
2. Motivated self-starter
3. Reliable
4. Strong teamwork
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:12 am to Rex Feral
I’m older ( 57) and a supervisor. I supervise around 10-12 plant work. Just getting the young guys to show up and stay off their phone is a big problem
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:13 am to Rex Feral
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The other type is highly motivated and competent. There's never a problem with their work. The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves. And then they leave with the years of training your provided them. You're left having to find someone new and then train them all over again.
Just a random thought, but if you have an all-star employee and want to keep him, and you'll make money off of their work it's a no brainer to do whatever you need to keep them.
Why let someone go only to compete with them when you can keep them closer to home for less money?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:14 am to Rex Feral
Loyalty. Look into going to a partial ESOP or throw some equity with hand cuffs in instill loyalty. It doesn’t have to be a lot of the company but it will be worth it.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:26 am to Rex Feral
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The issue with them is they are constantly looking for a better opportunity somewhere else. Unless you want to give up part of the compan yto them, they know they can make more money if they go work for them selves. And then they leave with the years of training your provided them. You're left having to find someone new and then train them all over again.
If you are not holding on to any of these types, then your competitors hire them and start winning most of your business. Seems like you dont have much choice.
Like with most things, you need a few to really get the work done. Everyone knows they are the ones doing most of the work, so they are always getting approached with other opportunities.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:29 am to Rex Feral
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For a company with less than 10 employees, I've noticed there are two different types that I've dealt with.
i'll say that i am an in between on those. I've been with a small mom and pop network sales company for 10+ years. Never had more than 6 employees and I'm the longest standing employee that doesn't share a last name.
i'll call myself "highly competent" when the need arises, but also can be a bit lazy when there's not much to do. i've been WFH, but I travel for work probably 5 times a month as well.
Part of the time, I'm just somebody on retainer that is expected to be very well versed in network security, backup and recovery, EDR/MDR, content filtering. Part of my salary is just being on calls when something comes up on those and being able to jump on a call and help my company win business. I don't get commission on that, but it's a help to the company and I'm fine with it. I also have to do some web design which i freaking hate.
But I am expected to be an expert and deploy firewalls which makes about 40% of our overall GP. My bosses know that they can point me a direction and I will get done without an ounce of micro-management.
I also am the in house IT which i truly hate as well.
ETA: i will say that I have had multiple tempting poaching offers with some more money, but I have 2 teenage boys in sports and I enjoy the flexibility with a small company for the time I have to make their sports with a small company. I can send a basketball/track schedule and my company will make sure I make 90% of their games. I know better opportunities will not afford me that.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:30 am to Rex Feral
If that's all you have to complain about.. Consider yourself lucky..
No mention of always showing up late..
Spending more time of getting out of work then just doing the job.. Literally not answering the phone..
Gossiping about other employees to conquer and divide (wait that was the boss)..
No mention of always showing up late..
Spending more time of getting out of work then just doing the job.. Literally not answering the phone..
Gossiping about other employees to conquer and divide (wait that was the boss)..
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:40 am to Rex Feral
I'd want both. I'm loyal, but not to the point where I'm willing to long term sacrifice myself to a company. My dad retired with multiple pensions and the offer to come back and be a contractor any time he needs it, but those pensions just don't exist anymore. "Employees are like family" has become such a cliche it's quite literally a meme and red flag.
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