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Formula 1 chief appalled to find team using Excel to manage 20,000 car parts

Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:50 am
Posted by rickgrimes
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:50 am
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There's a new boss at a storied 47-year-old Formula 1 team, and he's eager to shake things up. He's been saying that the team is far behind its competition in technology and coordination. And Excel is a big part of it.

Starting in early 2023, Williams team principal James Vowles and chief technical officer Pat Fry started reworking the F1 team's systems for designing and building its car. It would be painful, but the pain would keep the team from falling even further behind. As they started figuring out new processes and systems, they encountered what they considered a core issue: Microsoft Excel.

The Williams car build workbook, with roughly 20,000 individual parts, was "a joke," Vowles recently told The Race. "Impossible to navigate and impossible to update." This colossal Excel file lacked information on how much each of those parts cost and the time it took to produce them, along with whether the parts were already on order. Prioritizing one car section over another, from manufacture through inspection, was impossible, Vowles suggested.

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Posted by Chrome
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:52 am to
Apparently they need a class on how to use Excel.
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:08 am to
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"When you start tracking now hundreds of thousands of components through your organization moving around, an Excel spreadsheet is useless,"


Spoken like someone who doesn't know how to use vlookup.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20452 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:22 am to
Williams should worry more about designing something that isn’t a shite box than someone using excel.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:50 am to
My man doesn't t know how to work Excel. I think the average Joe would have their mind blown if they realized how much accounting goes on in Excel. PowerBI is slowly taking more of the work share, but I still export out of accounting programs every day to use the data in Excel.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:59 am to
I bet this guy doesn’t know how to use the three sea shells either.
Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:26 am to
Doesn’t sound like excels fault, sounds like they don’t know how to properly build workbooks
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:47 am to
I'm not a data guy but excel for 20,000 items doesn't seem that bad if used properly
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:48 am to
they need to learn how to use excel
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:51 am to
Typical C-suite mindset. Oh let’s drop Excel and pay $200,000 a year to hire a software company to build the same tool for us that uses databases in the backend.
Posted by StrikeIndicator
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Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:09 am to
If if they were to use an operating system, the data gathering is via excel templates. That onboarding process can take a year or two to see the benefits. Sounds like toxic leadership.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11089 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:40 am to
Cloud-based ERP platform is the answer…
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119445 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:43 am to
Sounds like a common issue with growing businesses that need to transition from excel spreadsheets to hiring business process management team. Don't they have better planforms for this than excel, like SAP?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27588 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:48 am to
The worst DMS in the auto business would run circles around excel for this sort of thing.

The one I hated was microsoft Access.

Oh you have 5000 lines with 30 columns each? Allow me to take 9 minutes to load for no damned reason.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Member since Feb 2007
2738 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:54 am to
Ars proceeds to say Renault used the same system while managing triple the data a few years ago.

Kinda negated the great visionary breakthrough Vowles intended to promote. Like a prior poster said, this sounds more like an advertisement for some software company they partnered with.



Posted by Areddishfish
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Member since Oct 2015
6285 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:09 am to
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Microsoft Excel.


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"Impossible to navigate and impossible to update."


It's actually one of the easiest to navigate and update lol. Not like they were using Access or some other nonsense.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:15 am to
To be clear, what James Vowels wanted was specific engineering software that helps them track technical architecture. Using excel to for example, carry calculations based on different scenarios to be readily usable for moving to production
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:24 am to
Guilty.

I may or may not havea couple excel documents like that
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35497 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:43 am to
The entire global financial system runs on Excel just fine
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:44 am to
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