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re: Supreme Court Rules for Trump

Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29985 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:04 am to
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The "national temperature" should have no bearing on the courts writings.

Meh. Tailoring opinions to highlight consensus on politically charged issues is the right track to take, IMO.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
29793 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:06 am to
Oy the most severe partisan would have thought the Court would rule against Trump on this. This was showboating by Colorado and a waste of paper in December
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118990 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:07 am to
It helped Trump in the Primary, though, and getting this ruling before Super Tuesday helps even more.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8824 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:08 am to
I thought the new one was gonna blink ,but it was unanimous.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
5324 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:09 am to
I think this was Nancy, Chuck, et al’s setup from the get go. They carefully worded J6 as an insurrection and the MSM parroted the phrase, designed to fit into the Article 3 language to disqualify Trump. Glad this blew up in their faces.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432494 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:09 am to
I can't wait to listen to the next episode of Pod Saves America. Last week they had a segment on the immunity case and their expert (I forget her podcast...Strict Scrutiny maybe) was very smug about the court and Trump. She joked that she wanted the liberal justices to wink to say they're OK and not being held hostage, even.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
16572 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:10 am to
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Stupid Fägs in Colorado.
Posted by flownthecoop
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2024
12 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:10 am to
New poster here, so be gentle. SCOTUS got this one absolutely right and even took it a step further by appearing to tell Congress that if Trump is elected in November, they should not use Section 3 as a way to not properly count the electoral votes on Jan 06, 2025 in favor of Trump.

That is at least my early understanding and seems appropriate as there is already buzz growing around that scenario.

I also believe this provides some insight into how they will consider the immunity for POTUS and will again tell Congress that if you want to remove immunity for POTUS actions whilst POTUS is in office, then that begins with impeachment and conviction in the Senate.

Regardless, great day for team Trump and great day for America.
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
583 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Supreme Court Rules for Trump


Has anyone checked in with the DU? Must be a lot of coping and seething going on over there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432494 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:13 am to
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I also believe this provides some insight into how they will consider the immunity for POTUS and will again tell Congress that if you want to remove immunity for POTUS actions whilst POTUS is in office, then that begins with impeachment and conviction in the Senate.


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104126 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:14 am to
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Sure, but it's very rare that they take the extra step (hence the "long shot" description). The last time they did this was what, Citizens United?



But that's sort of the inherent problem in thinking you can provide some sort of conventional analysis to something that is indeed COMPLETELY unprecedented.

I think the idea that one can pretend that this stuff is just subject to normal precedential analysis is actually what is most absurd.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7534 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:15 am to
Someone go to the Senate and take McConnell and Romney's guns from them ......On second thought
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51970 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:18 am to
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I can't wait to listen to the next episode of Pod Saves America. Last week they had a segment on the immunity case and their expert (I forget her podcast...Strict Scrutiny maybe) was very smug about the court and Trump. She joked that she wanted the liberal justices to wink to say they're OK and not being held hostage, even.


Political podcasts have been very fun to listen to during this election season
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432494 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:19 am to
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But that's sort of the inherent problem in thinking you can provide some sort of conventional analysis to something that is indeed COMPLETELY unprecedented.

I think the idea that one can pretend that this stuff is just subject to normal precedential analysis is actually what is most absurd.

The issue is there are other arguments/avenues they didn't address. Your point would require an examination of all the potential arguments. That's why the rulings are supposed to be limited.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10722 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:19 am to
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DU will still call this unconstitutional.


They did!
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
2307 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:20 am to
as expected the marixist SecState Jenna Griswald is not taking this well:

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432494 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:20 am to
Anybody check in on the Maine SOS?
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3658 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:20 am to
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I also believe this provides some insight into how they will consider the immunity for POTUS and will again tell Congress that if you want to remove immunity for POTUS actions whilst POTUS is in office, then that begins with impeachment and conviction in the Senate.


I read an article yesterday that a lot of court insiders are very curious about the wording the supreme court used in granting the writ on immunity. They focused on the words official acts which many believe gives Trump a favorable argument and also gives the Court a way to kick it back to the appellate level without really doing anything. That alone would kill all chance of a trial before the election.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by flownthecoop
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2024
12 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:20 am to
Romney would be the exact sort to try and make some Section 3 claim when certifying the electoral votes.

McConnell will likely be silenced by the Chicoms before he makes it to Jan 06, 2025 - they are already working on loose ends within his family in preparation for Trump's return to 1600 Pennsylvania.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
12298 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:22 am to


This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 10:37 am
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